<p>i'm really excited to go see Syrcause, especially Newhouse! When using college data tools, i.e collegeboard, are the stats to get into Syracuse the same as Newhouse? Or is Newhouse much more competitive than the rest of Syracuse? (If this is making any sense at all to anyone...)</p>
<p>It makes sense and yes, it's much more competitive than Syracuse in general (College of Arts and Sciences).</p>
<p>pearlgirl: It is impossible to use college data tools to determine your viability at Newhouse, given that stats are not released for the individual schools at SU....the only info that was released for the class that just started was that there were 4,000 applicants for 350 spots in the freshman class.....that's not to say that there is a <10% acceptance rate, because that doesn't account for yield, but a good benchmark measure is approx. a 25% acceptance rate (or 1000 accepted) and a 35% yield.....but that would be just a guess....if anyone else has a better one, or has informed info, hopefully they will post......</p>
<p>BTW, I think those numbers are for all enrolled students....not sure how they change for freshman who are dually enrolled (A &S, WHitman, Info systems, etc.) vss. those who were accepted directly and primarily to Newhouse......</p>
<p>The 4,000/350 numbers came directly from Dean Rubin, if anyone wants to know....</p>
<p>So, to the OP, in reference to your original question, yes, it is much more competitive to be admitted to Newhouse....many, many students start out in A&S with the hopes of transferring in, but it never hurts to try......</p>
<p>If you made some mistakes in high school but you have stats good enough to be accepted into the College of Arts and Sciences but not quite Newhouse, I'd still apply and spend a semester or two in Arts and Sciences, ace all your courses, and sign up to transfer into Newhouse. </p>
<p>I know a lot of students who took this route when they didn't get into the business school (Whitman School of Management).</p>
<p>thanks for the insight! i figured at such a renowned communications school there was no way that the same 51% acceptance rate were admitted... not that there is anything wrong with the rest of Syracuse- it is a great school. </p>
<p>So even though it is impossible to know, what kind of credentials would you say someone would need to be admitted into newhouse?</p>
<p>equivalent to someone trying to get into harvard</p>
<p>Try again, Phil.</p>
<p>Pearl, IlluSU is right. I'm an ambassador, and we remind everyone to check a second box indicating that they would like the chance to get into another SU school if not Newhouse.
The stats we give are slightly inflated. That is, we tell people how many people applied (well over 3,000 and possibly more this year) and how many we admit (335 generally) not how many we accept (high-20-something percent). We also say that the freshman class has an average GPA of 4.0. That's weighted. More like a 3.6 or 7. The SAT and ACT scores are correct. SAT is somewhere around 1300. ACT is 29? I'm not sure.</p>
<p>But they also want to see what you can do. If you have an 800 math SAT and a 400 verbal, they might question that. If you can write an essay like no other and have a C in chem, they'll probably let you go through. </p>
<p>About 150 students will start out in another SU school and graduate from Newhouse. Give both options a shot.</p>
<p>Due to the competitiveness of Newhouse, will a lack of communications based e.c.s hurt an applicants chances?</p>
<p>I would think that all of that depends on what you were offered in high school. If your high school has a newspaper, magazine, yearbook club and/or news show, and you chose not to take part in any of these then they might question that. On the other hand, if you were never offered these opportunities then they'd surely understand that you simply didn't have a chance to further explore your interest in communications.</p>
<p>Molly, if you have a strong academic record and show your interest in your essay, that will help you. Syracuse asks for two references, if I remember correctly. Ask someone who can attest to your communications/writing skills, your interest in politics/current affairs, or anything else that you feel would make you a strong Newhouse student. My son's HS didn't offer impressive journalism opportunities, though he did a few related summer activities. He used his essay and recommendation to advantage.</p>
<p>Also, if you are able to have an interview, do it. (If distance prevents you from interviewing, don't worry about it.) Syracuse interviews in NYC and DC. They send admissions reps to plenty of other places. My S's interviewer asked excellent, focused questions that enabled my S to further show his interest.</p>
<p>[Disclaimer: S chose another school but loved Newhouse, too. ]</p>
<p>Thank you ca2009 and geezermom for the advice. I have been interested in Communications for awhile but only recently decided that I would like to persue it as a field of study. My school does offer newspaper/yearbook class as well as tv production class but sadly these classes are "slack off/take them to get an easy A" type classes at my school which is why I haven't taken them. Hopefully my academic record, essays, and recomendations will be able to help me my chances.</p>
<p>Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. If that's the case at your high school then it shouldn't be a big deal. Also, your geographic location may also help you out (funny, I know). I'm from NC, and when I toured Newhouse they told me that being from NC would help me out a lot in the admissions process since they don't get many NC applicants.</p>
<p>As a little 2 cents, even if you don't get into Newhouse freshman year, it would be of best interest to go into the communications and Rhetorical Studies department under the School of Visual and Performing Arts aka VPA. Quite a number of NewHouse hopefuls start out there first before transferring in but who knows you might end up staying in VPA.</p>