<p>2nd of all I am a citizen and everyone outside this forum dislikes/hates Bush. Remember that half the people in this country voted against him twice. And since his approval is rating is about 25/30 percent half the people who voted for him have Buyer's Remorse.</p>
<p>At this point I stopped reading your post because anyone that believes in religion/God isn't that bright. I haven't showed any hatred towards anyone. I am merely stating facts. Name one of the facts that you think aren't substantiated and I will gladly cite a source.
What you people have to understand is that there is a large gap between domestic and foreign policy and although a country may treat its own citziens will , it can be far from genteel in its foreign affairs. It could be, well more of a Nazi in its foriegn affairs.</p>
<p>Well, technically, MORE than half of the country voted for him....TWICE. So apparently he's doing something right.</p>
<p>As for your attitude towards religion/this country/people besides yourself, I pity you. You must lead a sad, unfufilling life. I pray...yes, pray, that someone knocks some sense into you...and soon.</p>
<p>Let me get this straight , you believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old and that evolution is a myth and I am the one that needs some sense knocked into me?</p>
<p>Just so you know, most people in the military aren't murderers. Why do you think our government has spent billions to develop smart bombs to reduce collateral damage? In fact, most people in the military don't even fight on the front lines. So before you make generalizations about the military based on a single incident involving a few soldiers, consider where this country would be without the military...Revolutionary War <a href="we'd%20be%20British%20citizens">militia</a>. Civil War <a href="we'd%20be%20two%20separate%20countries">Army of the Potomac</a>. WWII...(we'd be speaking German now, the Nazi Party would still be going strong, and people who speak out against the Party would be dead, namely people like you). So because of the military you are allowed to freely speak out on a freaking internet forum against the very organization that protects that right. Ironic, eh? That's the way America works...if you don't like it, then we'd all be happy to see you move to Canada, or better yet, some "cool" place like Iran or North Korea. See how you like it there...</p>
<p>And by the way, it's not like there are US patrols in Iraq looking for civilians to kill...I'd love to see you be compassionate when there are bullets flying by you. It's easy to dream of sunshine and flowers and compassion and theory when you're living in a place where your very survival is not threatened every day. Yet our military people are compassionate even in a hellhole like Iraq. It's liberals like you who can only see the glass half empty.</p>
<p>I like this one. A quote by confused, "...anyone that believes in religion/God isn't that bright. I haven't showed any hatred towards anyone." So, George Washington, Jesus, Newton, Ghandi, Einstein, etc. were not that bright...Thanks for the revelation. Your second statement is a straight lie, as nurseypoo pointed out.</p>
<p>DMeix, voter turnout is not very high. So, most of the country did not vote for either candidate in the past few elections.</p>
<p>I completely agree with C23 when he says that religious people are not that bright. Raimius.....Let's take this one at a time. George Washington was around about 200 years ago and he may have believed in God. But that was 200 years ago and fortunately science has proven all this crap to be UNTRUE. The same goes for Newton, he died in the 1720's. Now, Jesus was certainly not a smart guy. In fact, i would call him psychotic. Ghandi, well i dont know if i would call him particularly smart, although he was a very kind and compassionate man who fought tirelessly for the rights of others. </p>
<p>Just think about it, you are naming a FEW people who you say (i dont know if all of them were actually religious, but lets go with what you say) are religious and smart at the same time. But i can name thousands of smart people who do not believe in any sort of God or religion. It has been proven, is you ask me i will provide you with a reference, that education and religion are inversely related. As one become more educated, he also becomes less religious. In an artice in The New Yorker published in April 2006, they polled a number of Ph.D's and the results support my and C23's claim. 94% of Ph.D's believe that there is no God, 3% believe that there may be a God, and 3% believe that there is a God. Does that tell you something? Oh by the way, on 6/6/06 it is supposed to be the day the Devil is born according to Fundamentalist Christians...Ahhhh, we only got a couple more days!!!</p>
<p>I think what the "religious" people here are saying is that the aforementioned people in history didn't necessarily have a profound belief in some old guy up in the heavens watching us; of course that is disproven by science, and we can't say that even George Washington or Ghandi truly believed that. However, what drives religion is the belief that there is an unknown power, a belief in something greater than oneself, a mental philosophy that helps make people better humans. </p>
<p>I don't believe that a God physically lives up in the heavens, but I do believe that we're influenced, be it mentally or physically or emotionally, by the perceived or real belief in a destiny in that we're not just wallowing through life aimlessly. </p>
<p>People rely on religion because that is what gets them through life, gets them through the tough times...you don't have to believe in order to get the good out of the philosophy; you don't have to be a zealot in order to understand the good that religion can offer. I really pity you unimaginative, narrow-minded buffoons who DO wallow through life aimlessly...then again, I really don't pity you at all...have fun going through the paces at Berzerkely.</p>
<p>And no, I'm not a religious zealot, or even really an advocate of religion, but I do respect the beliefs of others. I don't consider them stupid or unintelligent simply because they believe something different than I do; I consider them imaginative and fortunate to be able to derive such a powerful idea from a philosophy.</p>
<p>"they polled a number of Ph.D's and the results support my and C23's claim."</p>
<p>did they poll the people who were smart enough to not get a PhD?</p>
<p>PhDs are for suckers!</p>
<p>"I pity you. You must lead a sad, unfufilling life."</p>
<p>lets look at it from another perspective... i pity you because you live every day if fear of an imaginary character from thousands of years ago who restricts you from living your life as yourself. you will conform throughout your whole life and climb what you think are the stairs to heaven but when you get to the top of the stairs, the door will be locked and you will have wasted your life and your sunday mornings on nothing. :'(</p>
<p>" At this point I stopped reading your post because anyone that believes in religion/God isn't that bright."</p>
<p>I think that if a toddler is brainwashed into a religion, which is the case throughout the world, it doesn't really matter how smart the person is. I remember a friend of my dad's who spent 15 years studying how brains work at UMich and yet when the subject of stigmata came up, he was really emphasizing how real it is.</p>
<p>I'm disappointed in myself for using time to read your post. </p>
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According to that statement, you must be extremely religious.</p>
<p>Please try to support this statement. It is possible to make conjectures that those who suffer hardship (who you might call uneducated) find religion to comfort themselves whereas those who are successful and educated (who you might call smart) do not seek religious comfort to the same degree. I think a more accurate statement would be that people find religion moreso in times of hardship than in times of success and you perhaps are confusing hardship with uneducatedness and success with smartness.</p>
<p>''you perhaps are confusing hardship with uneducatedness and success with smartness.''</p>
<p>No, i am not confusing anything. I will repeat, education and religion are inversely related. And that is exactly what my statistics proved. A Ph.D is considered the highest you can go in education and i proved that those highly educated Ph.D's do not, predominantly, believe in god/religion. I am not talking about "smartness" or "hardship."</p>
<p>ab_med, would you kindly show me the scientific discovery that disproved God? I want irrefutable evidence here. Why would you say Jesus was not smart? (I am serious here, why?) I think 6/6/06 is when The Omen comes out. ;) I, certainly, do not prescribe to everything that each so-called Fundamentalist Christian claims. I hope that you do not believe in everything that people similar to you say either!</p>
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<p>As I have, please try and support your argument if you're going to make an outrageous claim. Don't bother responding to me because I have taken a vow to myself to not waste any additional time pointing out the obvious facts that you guys are, frankly, dumb. (and, of course, if anyone wishes for me to support my statement that you guys are dumb, I'll refer him or her to your previous posts and comments which are more than sufficient evidence). :)</p>
<p>6/06/06 is the day that the new and improved "Omen" will be coming out. How many Fundamentalist Christians do you know that believe that is the day that the devil is born? Is that because you heard it on E Entertainment Network when they were promoting the movie? Or is that just your guess?</p>
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<p>...Name one of the facts that you think aren't substantiated and I will gladly cite a source.
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<p>That's bizarre that you put both of those statements in the same post.</p>
<p>I think the most frustrating thing for the parents here is that you think you are so smart, but you're really just so ignorant. Sadly, your choice of "higher learning" probably won't serve to enlighten you much.</p>
<p>Let me make the distinction here between "education" and "wisdom" (i.e. all those Ph.D.s that don't recognize the existence of God. (Hey, if you recognize the existence of LOVE, then you recognize the existence of GOD, because God IS love!).</p>
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<p>They're just not worth it. They are sophomoric at best, and fit perfectly with what Lenin (they know all about him) called the "useful idiot).</p>
<p>But remember! They support the troops! :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>Sadly, you're probably right.</p>
<p>Will no one rid us of these meddlesom trolls? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Did you ever hear "there are no atheists in foxholes"? Not that the people who chose to call people who have faith will ever be in a foxhole. They will let others do that for them while they are persuing their PhD's. I wonder, though, what their last thought would be if they were stuck inside of a burning building that was just hit by a plane? I'll bet that most of the people who saved others or died trying to save others were not atheists.</p>