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<p>Since abmed & C23 dismiss the aforementioned believers.... the following scientist were not atheist .....:</p>

<p>Louis Pasteur
Sir Michael Faraday (pioneer in electricity)
Blaise Pascal....</p>

<p>Moving on to the 20th century.......</p>

<p>The German-born rocket engineer Wernher von Braun, was director of the Marshall Space Flight Center in the 1960s and an administrator for planning at NASA headquarters until 1972. In a book forward, he says: *"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science. And there is certainly no scientific reason why God cannot retain the same relevance in our modern world that He held before we began probing His creation with telescope, cyclotron, and space vehicles."[i/] [Richard H. Utt, ed., Creation: Nature's Designs and Designer (Mountain View, Calif.: Pacific Press, 1971), p. 6.]</p>

<p>Arthur Schawlow, a professor of physics at Stanford University and a 1981 Nobel laureate in physics. He says, "It seems to me that when confronted with the marvels of life and the universe, one must ask why and not just how. The only possible answers are religious. . . . I find a need for God in the universe and in my own life." [Henry Margenau and Roy Abraham Varghese, eds., Cosmos, Bios, Theos: Scientists Reflect on Science, God, and the Origins of the Universe, Life, and Homo Sapiens (La Salle, Ill.: Open Court Pub. Co., 1992), p. 105.]</p>

<p>And then Einstein!!!!!!</p>

<p>"I'm not much with people, and I'm not a family man. I want my peace. I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomena in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts the rest are details." [Clarck, R. The Life and Times of Einstein. New York: The World Publish[ing Co., 1971.]</p>

<p>Anyway, that's it for now...I'm off to church with the rest of the dummies!</p>

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<p>pwnd...that's all I gotta say. Nice job pm.</p>

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<p>pm- went to church yesterday and it was great! There is a huge list of military that we pray for and added the Summer Seminar kids.</p>

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I knew they would posit something that made sense eventually. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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<p>Just think, a broken clock is right TWICE a day. These clowns have only been "right" ONCE, and there's more than one of them!</p>

<p>LOL! :D</p>

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<p>Well as for me, even if there is a God or not is irrevelant, organized religion, yes includuing yours, is corrupt and fallacious. Remember this is the same book that has several contradictions and says that Slavery is OK as long as you don't work them on Sunday.</p>

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<p>Prayerful Mom: I agree with your point but I'd be careful about using Werner von Braun as an example of anything but a brilliant scientist. He was a member of the Nazi Party, an SS officer, used slave labor at Peenemunde, and there's no record anywhere of von Braun ever protesting the use of slave labor. The U.S. government made a compromise in using his services and the services of the other Nazi (yes, they were all willing Nazis) scientests because of the threat from the Soviet Union and their space/missle program. Von Braun must have been very selective in how he thought about G-d, like the other Nazis who went to church on Sunday and exterminated Jews and others on Monday.</p>

<p>As for Confused 23 - why bother with him?</p>

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<p>Big Green, thanks for the heads up on Wernher von Braun, didn't know about the Nazi connection...it appears that as an SS officer he undoubtedly had ties to many deaths, even if indirectly. A lot to atone for! Frankly, believing in a loving God is the antithesis of supporting the Nazis!
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<p>Still the point of my post above was to challenge the statements made by the dynamic duo concerning science and faith; hence, the list of scientist and educated people who profess a belief in God. </p>

<p>Predictably, C23 ignored the challenge with his usual and now expected infantile remarks! Abmed seems to be in the same camp as well, post any unsubstantiated comment you like and follow up with insults.</p>

<p>Months ago I suggested that C23 was “stuck on stupid”, now I must be for responding to him!!!!!</p>

<p>Bill indicated that we may copy his statement regarding Confused23 and I think I will {thanks Bill]....
“WARNING: You are trying to reason with a 17-year old who has no experience and cannot support his writings with any verifiable facts. STOP! Would you debate a 17-year old at a party? STOP!”</p>

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<p>LOL LOL. Remember the robot? "WARNING WILL ROBINSON!"</p>

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<p>BigGreen - I'm a little behind on reading this, and I just saw the one you posted about the Thucydides quote your son had. "The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools." That's so funny, because I JUST found that quote on my own about a week ago, and it has been my AIM away message ever since. (I also just love Thucydides, lol.) Trying to connect it to my future Harvard/NROTC-Marine experience... but then again, since I am conservative, and want to be in the military, and am religious, I obviously am not 'smart', so I don't know what Harvard is thinking...</p>