<p>I want to transfer to Berkeley and major in chemical biology in the fall of 2013 (wish me luck i'll need all of it) I have used assist to plan my courses but my organic chemistry sequence does not fit in without me staying an extra year at a CC. It is not a required class for the major, but it is one of the lower division classes listed on assist. Do you think I need to complete everything on assist to get in??? Thanks in advance for the help! :^)</p>
<p>trying to transfer to cal… with that major… complete everything on assist, igetc, all of it bro… seriously.</p>
<p>For UCB, do everything. Literally. EVERYTHING.</p>
<p>will it look bad if i stay at a CC for three years?</p>
<p>No it won’t, and actually it will be better on your part because you’ll have taken care of as many lower-division courses and won’t have to go into Berkeley and take them (also they will be much more difficult over there).</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>I would apply anyways.</p>
<p>The minimum doesn’t include o-chem</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>If don’t get in, then you can try next year.</p>
<p>Just warning you that chemical biology is just like chemistry but with like 2 classes in biochemistry/chemical biology.</p>
<p>I was just accepted as a transfer in Chemical Bio for this Fall. These are the Upper Divison classes you must take for completion of the degree:</p>
<p>Chem 103 - pre-req Genchem
Chem 135 - pre-req Ochem
Chem 120A - pre-req Lin Alg/Diff Eq and Phys 7B (2nd semester Physics)
Chem 120B - pre-req Chem 120A
MCB 110 - pre-req Bio 1A & 1AL and Chem 135
MCB 110L - co-req/pre-req MCB 110 (FYI this is a 5 credit class, not just a 1 or 2 credit lab)
1 Req Chem class - (choose between 4 options - various pre-reqs)
2 Extra Upper Division Chem or Allied Subjects Classes (you basically pick 2 UD science classes out of a huge list)
= Total of 9 Upper Division classes.</p>
<p>If assist.org says you need to take Quantitative Analysis (Chem 15) it’s actually a 3 credit class not 2. (+ 1 class if you haven’t taken it yet)
Though ochem isn’t really TECHNICALLY a pre-req for most of your classes, I am pretty confident that Cal will only transfer credit if you complete the whole sequence at your school (since you also have to take the ACS). (+ 2 classes if you don’t complete it)
= Grand Total of 12 classes you will probably need provided that you complete ALL the other pre-reqs.</p>
<p>If I were you, I’d definitely get Ochem done at your school. I’m not saying this is the norm, but I was accepted without completing Bio 1A (since the articulation wanted me to take Genetics or Zoology in addition to my Molecular Bio class to complete this). I also didn’t take Phys 7B since it was full at my school but I took Phys 7C so I was able to get an additional Upper Division Allied Elective out of the way. I am also taking Lin Alg/Diff Eq over the Summer at my CC. In general, I will need 11 classes to graduate from Cal in Chem Biology. If someone applies needing much more than 12 science/math classes, I don’t think they will accept them because they will probably not be able to realistically finish within 4 semesters and they don’t offer any UD Chem in the Summer. If you only take the REQUIRED pre-reqs, you will need 14 science/math classes to graduate which is doable if the classes you are missing are ones that you could take during summer sessions to balance out your schedule. If you took Ochem 1 in Fall '13, Ochem 2 in Spring '14, then you would have to take Chem 135 in Fall '13 and that leaves you having to take MCB 110 & 110L your last semester. Though this is possible, you MUST have almost all your other pre-reqs done in order to have time to fit in all your other classes in accordance to when they are offered. Most people at Cal (especially time-consuming majors) take only 3 classes per semester.</p>
<p>So overall, if I were you, I would sacrifice finishing Bio 1A for Ochem if you can. Pchem (Physical Chemistry -Chem 120A&B) is really hard and I couldn’t imagine having Ochem at the same time since it requires a lot of practice problems and memorization. See what other CCs near you might have classes that you can take over the summer also to get done with as much as you can. I’ve seen some schools offering Calc 3 or Lin Alg/Diff Eqs over the summer so if you can sacrifice those during your Fall & Spring semesters, I would do that also in exchange for taking Ochem. This is just my honest opinion to best prepare you.</p>
<p>READ THIS PART!!!
Cal requires that you get B’s or better in all of your pre-reqs. The assist.org articulation kind of mentions it but when I received my Conditions of Admission, it says that I have to get B’s in my current pre-reqs or my admission will DEFINITELY be revoked (currently taking Ochem2 Phys 7C & Calc 3). I ended up contacting the Undergraduate Dean of Chem about this and they verified that they do enforce that. Though I have gotten A’s & B’s in all of my pre-reqs so far, I’m not sure if having any C’s in them would affect your admission but I would definitely try to adhere to this if Cal is really your dream school.</p>
<p>Feel free to ask me any questions.</p>
<p>Oh and I think you should wait and see how you feel when application time rolls around. If you feel confident in your 2nd year, go for it but if you aren’t accepted and you still have some classes you can take for a 3rd year at your CC (classes required for other UCs too so you have some options in schools), then I would personally stay a 3rd year. I would’ve never been able to finish IGETC and the pre-reqs if I hadn’t stayed 3 years. You seem young and if you’re already trying to plan ahead this far, it seems like you could turn out to be the type of student they would be interested in provided you keep your GPA up really high and write awesome personal statements.</p>
<p>Thank you for all of that information killmyentourage and everyone else. I will definitely take your advice and make o-chem a priority. Hopefully I too will be a Chemical Biology Major at Cal in the future!</p>