How many of these schools will I get into?

<p>Hey I'm going to try to make this as brief as possible:</p>

<p>Biographical info: 18 year old senior from rural virginia</p>

<p>stats: SAT-1460 (retake in jan)
SATIIs: 780 mathIIC, 700 french, 690 writing (retake in dec)
UW gpa: 4.0
W gpa: 4.625
rank: 1/400
Courseload: hardest available in all areas, 10 APs by graduation, a physics class at UVA, all honors, etc etc</p>

<p>ECs: decent; varsity track, jazz band(drummer), NHS, french club president/treasurer...nothing too out-of-the-ordinary</p>

<p>Essays: decent (7-8/10 maybe?)</p>

<p>Recs: pretty good</p>

<p>Colleges: Princeton (ED)
UVA (instate)
Dartmouth
Duke
Cornell
U. of Chicago
Rice (ID)
Williams</p>

<p>I intend to major in physics or economics and am pretty sure about the schools I am applying to...but am not so sure about my chances. What do you guys think? Which ones should I consider reaches/matches? I think Princeton far and away is my biggest reach, but I am not so sure about the others. Could you maybe give me estimated percent chances and tell me how many total I might get into?</p>

<p>Ask me anything else you need to know. Thanks!</p>

<p>-Mark</p>

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<p>Princeton - reach
UVA - match/safety
Darthmouth - match
Duke - match
Cornell - match
U. of Chicago - Match/Reach
Rice - Reach
Williams - match/reach</p>

<p>Ummm Dartmouth is a match but Chicago's a match/reach?</p>

<p>I don't think so. And get the spelling right.</p>

<p>Princeton - 50-50 chance
UVA - good bet
Darthmouth - 50-50 chance
Duke - better than 50-50, say 60-40
Cornell - good bet
U. of Chicago - good bet
Rice - 60-40
Williams - good bet</p>

<p>u can get into all the places except
williams, princeton
if you get ur sat scores up higher like above
1550 then i'd think u'd have at least a 75% chance to get in
if you have some awesome ec's liek that take up 10 hours a week or more
then ur in</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses! Anyone else?</p>

<p>I see a little bit of disagreement on Williams; how competitive is it in relation to my others? And how many total could I possibly get into? Four or five maybe?</p>

<p>williams good bet. princeton, a little closer than a reach, hope the sat 2 writing works out for u though, it will perfect those scores</p>

<p>why dont u drop williams and apply to brown, everybody loves brown =)</p>

<p>I think Williams just looks a little out of place among those big schools, and I know nothing about it, but I'd say you're in at princeton! lol
but seriously, I'd say you're in at
Rice, UVa, UChicago, Duke
and the rest are harder, but better than 50/50 chance.</p>

<p>Yea, I'm not so sure about Williams. It appeals to me a little, but is really the only school on my list that I am considering changing. Do you have any suggestions?</p>

<p>Wow you sound just like me (drummer, SAT scores, physics major, Princeton/Cornell/Chicago) why not MIT? just curious. I am thinking about retaking the SAT Writing test in January should I get deffered by MIT (likely!) i got a 690. If i am only taking the one, I can probably pull off a 750. I know little about the admissions process, but I think you have a good shot. I also think you should take the SAT II in Physics. I had taken AP Physics and pulled off an 800 with no studying. For physics geeks, it is pretty easy.</p>

<p>jerew: That's cool, you must be a cool person, haha. I'm not applying to MIT because I am 99.273^982% sure that they would reject me. Cool school though. I still might apply (I'm thinkin' a williams-for-mit trade) so it's not out of the question. I just hope I get into Princeton...that would be amazing. Anyways, good luck at MIT!</p>

<p>Rasberrysmoothie,</p>

<p>First of all, it was a typo. If you can't discern that then I have questions abour your intelligence. Second of all, UChicago is very particular about the kind of student they admit (not that Dartmouth isn't) - the UChicago admissions process is a bit quirky. The application is even called the "uncommon" app. I know an admissions officer for UChicago, and someone with "nothing out of the ordinary" in terms of ECs and doesn't present themselves well in terms of what UChicago is looking for is going to have a tougher time getting into UChicago than Dartmouth. Or maybe not. It's a crapshoot anyway.</p>

<p>Is Chicago really as selective as Dartmouth? What about the 40% acceptance rate? I guess I should put a lot into those essays...</p>

<p>Princeton (ED)-60% chance
UVA (instate)-in
Dartmouth-40% chance
Duke-65% chance
Cornell-45% chance
U. of Chicago-45% chance
Rice (ID)-65% chance
Williams-65% chance</p>

<p>Looking at this, and I see how wildly inaccurate our judgments really are. 60% Princeton? Doubtful. But then again, you never know. I think there's an increasing amount of importance on ECs for the more competitive schools, and your ECs are on the weakerside. But you should be fine at schools that are more about the number game.</p>

<p>About the ECs...I think I've taken advantage of most of the stuff available to me. There's not much focus on building up a big resume of ECs for college apps at my school and even if I wanted to, there isn't much opportunity. I only found message boards like CC a few months ago and it is absolutely stunning to see the kind of ECs that people have, such as university-level research. Either way I don't think admissions should come down absolutely to ECs, just like it shouldn't be an essay contest. Hopefully they'll take the whole package in relation to its surrounds and potential.
BTW, as far as ECs concerned, I think I forgot to mention the full time job I have held the past two summers as an intern at a local law firm. That might help.</p>

<p>Realistically, unless you're disadvantaged or a minority, those stats are not likely to land you in Princeton. Dartmouth will be a significant reach as well, and Williams and Duke aren't much further behind.</p>

<p>The rest of your schools, which are still excellent, I would be disappointed if I did not see acceptance letters from at least two of. You should certainly get into UVA from in-state. And saying that you would get into one other, I think is safe, if you are well-presented.</p>

<p>Now ... affirmative action or the pull to help the truly disadvantaged could do absolute wonders with those stats, of course. So bear that into consideration, if it applies.</p>

<p>Joey</p>

<p>Moocow-</p>

<p>First of all, that's why they have the edit button. Oops... kind of reflects badly on your intelligence, doesn't it.</p>

<p>Secondly, the fact that you have the authority to decide UChicago's admissions process is any more particular than Dartmouth's, is laughable. How exactly are you- some punk student who hasn't even gotten into college yet- deciding this information? What empirical data, what experience do you have that says this? Certainly, I don't know any better... but at least I don't make up wildly skewed arbitrary categories based on my subjective opinion.</p>

<p>Regardless, I'm not going to get into a petty little fight about some poor kid's chances. I just think your misinformed "list" needs to be corrected... it doesn't impress us, and it certainly won't impress Vassar.</p>