<p>Well..I'm a US Citizen settled in Pakisatn who's got a decent pile of ECs:</p>
<p>Debating Society (since 2nd grade :P )
History Society
Writer for School's Annual Magazine
Science Society (Vice President)
Cancer Hospital Charity Collection
Fundraisers in school
Headboy of my school
Earthquake Relief Efforts
Was among 40 students selected from all over Pakistan on a merit basis to attend a science camp
Recipient of School's Full Scholarship (Annual)
Member of School Basketball Team
Member of school's Dramatic Society (Lead role in last play)</p>
<p>I have also secured straight As in all external GCE O level and A level exams, but have gotten just average SAT scores (SAT1 2100-SAT2 750, 710, 710)</p>
<p>I'm applying to Duke, Dartmouth, UPenn, Brown, Cornell, Swarthmore and Stanford. </p>
<p>Now, I realize that my SAT scores aren't up to level. I could not give them again and bump up the score due to the earthquake in the region. So, how important do these colleges consider GCE/GCSE grades. My GPA in school is 4.6/5 UW.</p>
<p>Do I stand a chance? Should I apply to UK colleges which, by the way, my parents will not be able to afford (they do not give as much financial aid as US colleges). What do I do!? Are there any financial aid programs in the UK? My first choices are the colleges I have listed. Will I get into at least one of them!? JUST ONE!! Realistic answer needed! O_O</p>
<p>Oh, and does US Citizenship help at all? Would it have been tougher on me if I were only a Pakistani citizen (currently a dual citizen).</p>
<p>Absolutely do not count on getting into one of those schools. 2100 is low for all of them. There are lots of great schools and you need to have some that are far more likely on your list.</p>
<p>Or believe the wishfull thinking James and become another Andi's son (see archieves). James, you have a real problem. Where are you in again? Let's see, your latest declaration is that you don't like US colleges and that Oxford is much better. While it's certainly a great school, it's apples and oranges. 3 years of head down study of your major v. 4 years of a balanced great education and social life. One visit and it was off my list. The OP wants a great American college and he can go to one. Maybe not one on his original list but he deserves the opportunity to go back and look at where his stats really fit. Why are you on this board James? You don't seem to be of help to anyone.</p>
<p>psha suze, just because you know you'd fail the Oxford interview doesnt mean that Oxford sucks. A student at Oxford can get into your beloved Dartmouth anyday. Did your rich daddy buy you your likely letter?</p>
<p>To the OP, if money is a matter, then i would reconsider your choices. But you are great statwise, although retaking the SAT will never hurt :)</p>
<p>Again, James misses the point. You will qualify for aid at US schools but not at schools in the UK. Jamsie, do you have a mom and dad or a college counselor? Help is available. And are you planning to get into xford with a 2100?</p>
<p>The fact is that a 2100 will not get the unhooked candidate into any of the named schools and all data supports that.</p>
<p>Awesome!!!! But Jamsie, please read the data instead of relying on those your know who got into MIT and Harvard with a 2100. Assuming that the numbers are 700/700/700, they would in all liklihood been recruited athletes, urms, legacies and or rich and famous to get into those schools with such scores.</p>
<p>Your assumption that I have a rich family is just another example of your lack of knowledge about how top schools in this Country work. They reward hard work and talent with admission and aid Jamsie, the 1960s have passed.</p>
<p>LOL suzie, the data for New SAT hasnt come out yet, and thus your "assumptions" are unreliable. 2200+ is great, but 2100 in no way keeps an unhooked applicant out.</p>
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<p>Huh???? Jamsie, who needs data from the new SATs. JNothing much has changed. To be a viable, unhooked candidate at a top 15 school will still require a 750 on CR and math absent something that makes you really unusual. All contradictions aside, the facts are the facts. There are lots of dreamers on CC who really want to believe in the "holistic" approach--they'll see I'm really special and I'll be one of the admits in the 25 percentile--They'll overlook my low GPA with a high SAT--they'll overlook my low SAT with a high GPA. You Jamsie, personify the dreamers. The stats are all there although some interpretation is required. Just who are the below average admits? Not too hard to figure out Jamsie when you add up the football team, basketball team, development candidates, urms, legacies.....</p>
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Huh???? Jamsie, who needs data from the new SATs. JNothing much has changed. To be a viable, unhooked candidate at a top 15 school will still require a 750 on CR and math absent something that makes you really unusual. All contradictions aside, the facts are the facts. There are lots of dreamers on CC who really want to believe in the "holistic" approach--they'll see I'm really special and I'll be one of the admits in the 25 percentile--They'll overlook my low GPA with a high SAT--they'll overlook my low SAT with a high GPA. You Jamsie, personify the dreamers. The stats are all there although some interpretation is required. Just who are the below average admits? Not too hard to figure out Jamsie when you add up the football team, basketball team, development candidates, urms, legacies....
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<p>You make no sense at all. I think Dartmouth made a mistake.</p>
<p>Whatever, I hope the OP looks through your lies and considers what I said.
Good think I'm applying to Oxford, I wouldn want to kill my brain cells being associated with misinformed people like you.</p>