<p>Puppettzz . . . </p>
<p>Your ACT score is already pretty good, but if it's money you want, I think you have a better chance if you have a truly exceptional ACT score (correct me if I'm wrong). </p>
<p>Now, I know you've been complaining about the ACT and prospect of retaking it this whole thread, but devoting time to studying and then a few hours with that essay you hate so much can save you thousands of dollars and take off loads of stress for paying for college if you were to get a scholarship of any amount for a high score--school-sponsored or outside. I believe that chance is worth it. It's also not worth ruling out applying to a great school because you don't feel like putting up with a test for a few hours :P. Few people actually like it but they put up with it because it gives results. 'Sides, once you're in college (especially in engineering), you'll be laboring over work that makes the ACT seem like baby steps on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Of course, it's your choice, but if getting a higher ACT score could get you money/considerably help your chances, I'd stomach it.</p>
<p>Well I have pretty much decided to go to MSU. so the only reason I would be taking it is to get more money from them. MSU gives 80% of your need in financial aid. 50% of it is in scholaships/grants. So the average person that is judged to have need gets like 40% free tuition. I have a little better ACT then average so would I probably get half tuition? I also have family connections there. Id be very happy with half tuition to MSU.</p>
<p>Here is the chart</p>
<pre><code>* Full-time freshman enrollment: 7,306
* Number who applied for need-based aid: 4,934
* Number who were judged to have need: 3,090
* Number who were offered aid: 3,088
* Number who had full need met: 976
- Average percent of need met: 78%
- Average financial aid package: $8,892
- Average need-based loan: $2,748
- Average need-based scholarship or grant award: $4,322
- Average non-need based aid: $3,779
- Average indebtedness at graduation: $21,037
</code></pre>
<p>^^ C'mon, Alexandre. How can you say Purdue is a "match" yet MSU (along w/ WMU) is a "safety" when MSU's admissions stats are a tad higher than Purdue's (Purdue avg's, 2005-6: 3.4 GPA, 25 ACT; MSU, nearly 3.6 GPA, 25 ACT)? And MSU's applications, grade and test score averages have rising sharply over the last few years. Given that, and given the upward volatility of admissions with major schools such as MSU, and Purdue, I'd say they're both matches. I could possibly understand your statement if you are considering Puppetzz has having a leg up given his/her legacy ties with the U, even though MSU tends to frown on bloodline admissions advantages.</p>
<p>If my essay is pretty good, my ACT is above average and my GPA is average with an upward trend then how can I not get in. 75% of the people that go there have a lower ACT then me.</p>
<p>Easy Quincy, </p>
<p>1) Purdue and MSU have similar admission standards, but Puppetzz is a Michigan resident and an OOS applicant to Purdue. </p>
<p>2) Purdue's college of Engineering has separate admissions standards than the rest of the university, and as we can both imagine, they are slightly stricter.</p>
<p>3) His entire family attended MSU and his gradnparents are employees of MSU. </p>
<p>In short, MSU as a university is indeed as selective as Purdue, but not to Puppetzz.</p>
<p>OK, as I noted, I thought you were hinting at the familial tie. Also, the instate status helps, too.</p>