<p>would it help to take an AP Chem course and end up with a C in my junior year, or would it b better to not take it? In other words, what's better, a C in an AP class or no AP class at all?</p>
<p>Also, is Honor's physics looked at as an AP course?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Take the most rigorous course load possible where you can maintain a B in all of your classes. C's are ugly, I would take no AP class at all or maybe take an easier AP.</p>
<p>No, only AP courses are looked upon as AP courses. Honors classes are looked upon as honors classes, with less "impressiveness" than an AP class.</p>
<p>I pretty much agree with sfgiants. honors physics is definitely not an AP course, though honors is seen as a step above regular. </p>
<p>And when you say "no AP course at all", do you mean none that year, or just one fewer, and not a science one? Because NO APs junior year does look pretty bad, unless your school offers very few...in that case, I might almost have to suggest the C...though why do you assume you'll have a C anyway? Work hard, get a B, that's the best solution. But if you would have several other APs, but an honors science class, that would be ok.</p>
<p>i have a question, do they weight honors and AP the same way?</p>
<p>no AP is better than Honors, which sucks for me my schools English classes, except senoir year, are all Hounors</p>
<p>in my school, honors and AP are the same weight in terms of GPA (5.0), but the AP class is harder. </p>
<p>Check with your school.</p>
<p>A in regular class beats C in AP class every time.
A in regular class beats B in honors class every time.
A in regular class beats B in AP class sometimes.</p>
<p>just want to add to something
A in regular class beats B in AP class all the time
-benefit of aps is not really for college admissions, but rather for getting credits later on which can end up to be alot =D
-i know this because i'm currently taking 5 and took 4 last year, not worth it in terms of gpa</p>
<p>getting credit has nothing to do with taking the class, btw</p>
<p>By the way, RE weighting, Us may re-calculate your GPA based on their weighting & the courses they consider important (leaving out or discounting those that they don't consider important).</p>
<p>Most Us consider IBs & APs as the most rigorous, followed by honors & lastly by "regular" courses.</p>
<p>lostincode: i'm assuming if you take the class you will take the ap test O.o</p>
<p>"-i know this because i'm currently taking 5 and took 4 last year, not worth it in terms of gpa"</p>
<p>It is if you can handle it.</p>
<p>I find that getting a B in an AP class is as good as if not better than getting an A in a regular class for various reasons, like being able to take the AP test prepared, not having class with people who are simply ignorant, etc. (/elitist).</p>
<p>no, last year i took 4 but got a b in one, if i can redo that year i would have taken only 3 and got straight As which would have been more useful</p>
<p>My advice: Take any AP in which you feel confident you can earn an A. If you get a B, that's okay but you'll need an A in another AP to offset it. Don't take any AP in which you might earn a C; take honors instead. This will probably result in taking AP classes in your areas of strength and honors (or regular) in your areas of weakness. If you're good at everything, go for as many APs as possible. If you're just not ready for AP work yet, leave the college work for college and do high school work in high school. Know thyself~ IMO ; )</p>
<p>True, you need to know yourself. At my kids HS, they recommend only up to two APs/year. They do make exceptions. My S took 5 APs + marching band his senior year & did OK. He did not get all As, but got all 5s in 6 of his AP exams and a 4 in the 7th (he self-studied for an additional 2 APs). He's cruising now in his 1st year of engineering at USC & getting better grades there than he did in HS (Dean's List, etc.)</p>
<p>DO c's kill chances in getting into at least UCLA</p>
<p>Stop thinking about the grade, and start thinking about the class.</p>
<p>Why would you take AP Chem if you plan to get a C in it? I can tell you right now, you wouldn't be getting a C in it if you were truly interesting in Chemistry...why not take a class that you're actually interested in?</p>
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just want to add to something
A in regular class beats B in AP class all the time
-benefit of aps is not really for college admissions, but rather for getting credits later on which can end up to be alot =D
-i know this because i'm currently taking 5 and took 4 last year, not worth it in terms of gpa
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<p>Not all the time. I would argue that a guy who has 6 classes, 3 of which are APs, and he has a B in one of them and the rest As, that beats someone with 6 classes, all regular, with all As. Rigor of curriculum does matter to colleges, just not as much as overall GPA. And especially if you get high scores on AP tests, that probably helps you at least a little bit.</p>
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I find that getting a B in an AP class is as good as if not better than getting an A in a regular class for various reasons, like being able to take the AP test prepared, not having class with people who are simply ignorant, etc. (/elitist).
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<p>In that sense, yes. But if we are talking about admissions racking up 4 or 5 Bs in your AP classes will hurt you badly in admissions to top colleges.</p>
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My advice: Take any AP in which you feel confident you can earn an A. If you get a B, that's okay but you'll need an A in another AP to offset it. Don't take any AP in which you might earn a C; take honors instead.
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<p>I would suggest not taking honors at all if you think you may get a B in them instead of As. I know many honor courses that are known for tough grading yet the truth is in admissions, having an honors class helps very little.</p>
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DO c's kill chances in getting into at least UCLA
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<p>They severly, severly hurt your chances.</p>
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Stop thinking about the grade, and start thinking about the class.</p>
<p>Why would you take AP Chem if you plan to get a C in it? I can tell you right now, you wouldn't be getting a C in it if you were truly interesting in Chemistry...why not take a class that you're actually interested in?
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<p>Hey, there are plenty of people who are interested in a subject but are horrible at it. For example, let's take a look at engineers. At top engineering schools like Berkeley or MIT, engineers flunk out every year. Others barely scrape by. The average GPA for engineers at Berkeley is roughly 2.7-2.8. MIT has to grade all courses first semester on a P/NP basis to protect its students from low GPAs.</p>
<p>I had held a C in AP Chem, but my class was really weird in a sense...</p>
<p>On the AP Test, I had scored a 4 and I went into that without studying at all.</p>
<p>I had a friend who was in the same class as me, basically flunking though; but got a 5 on the AP Test. In his case, he was just too lazy to do stuff that was assigned.</p>
<p>I took 4 APs last year (junior year) and 7 this year, I'm doing alright. It really depends on how good the teachers at your school are, how well you can budget your time, and if you're ready for it.</p>
<p>You should ALWAYS challenge yourself and take the hardest set of courses possible. It's like in track- it's better to be last in a fast heat than first in a slow one. You want to surround yourself with people who are better than you and who work harder than you, because it will force you to push yourself. </p>
<p>If you really think you're going to get C's, don't do it, but a B in an AP class is better than an A in a regular one, for many reasons.</p>
<p>Also, as for people getting bad grades in subjects they love, I've had an 81 in BC Calc these past two quarters, and Calculus is definitely one of my all-time favorite subjects. I do wish, however, that they did at my school what a lot of other schools do- have you take AB BEFORE BC, not instead of it. Arg, oh well.</p>