How To Convince My Mom...

<p>...that I may be best suited to drop out of college?</p>

<p>Here's the situation. I'm doing pretty well. I got a 4.0 the last two semesters taking relatively easy gen eds and some psych classes. This semester I have two A's, an A-, and a B. Not too bad considering I can pull that B up to a B+ or better. (I always shoot for B+ or higher).</p>

<p>However, I am very unhappy with college life. I hate my classmates--well, 95% of them at least. There are six people on the entire campus that I get along with, and only one of them I'm actually close with--we went to high school together. The kids on my campus are rude, horrible drivers, talk on their phones during class, let phones ring during tests, use that stupid text message or whatever it's called during class, and are always talking about going to bars and clubs and getting layed. They also like to come to class late--in fact, of all my semseters in college, I've had one kid in at least one class every time and she's only made it on time to a class once. They're absoulte idiots and in my opinion have the mental capacity of six year olds.</p>

<p>I no longer have anything to do on the weekends. It used to be I could be guaranteed to call someone up and chill or even just chat. Now I have to sit in my basement all night.</p>

<p>I'm in a few clubs, but the people there aren't the kind I'd chill out with--I am like the only conservative one on campus and if I have to hear about global warming, racism, war protesters, or Darfur one more time I'll have to shoot myself.</p>

<p>Basically, I am NOT HAPPY whenever I'm at college. On the contrary, I am very happy whenever I get to go to work. I work with a bunch of older people (30's and 40's) and we all get along great. My mom stopped by and said she hadn't seen me that happy since high school and my co-workers said that I'm always upbeat when I'm there so it's not just my imagination.</p>

<p>My options are to work jobs like receptionist all the time and just hope for raises/promotions for good work or to become an apprentice to a carpenter or something so that I would eventually become a contractor. I also haven't ruled out being a custodian at my alma mater.</p>

<p>Whatever the case, I really don't want to go back to college after spring break or ever. My mom thinks I'll get nowhere without a degree but I said that I am willing to live out of my car for the rest of my life.</p>

<p>first of all, you're too smart to become a receptionist and you seem to know that. dropping out of college all together is a horrible idea. transferring to another college is a good idea. But I would wait it out a little longer. Don't focus on you classmates too much and if you have a problem with cell phones etc. then talk to ur professor about it. Another thing you may want to consider is taking a break from college (i highly discourage this).</p>

<p>Hmmm. I'm sorry that your college experience isn't chalking up to what you thought. However, I think maybe you might not have found a college that is best suited for your needs. After high school, school is about finding what fits best with who YOU are - not the rank, not the people, not the scene, just YOU. </p>

<p>You sound exceptionally brilliant, and I agree it would be a waste of talent such as yours to drop out. Maybe you should seriously consider transferring to a more challenging school, or one that is more conservative (possibly religiously affiliated? they tend to draw more of the conservative crowd) in character. Global warming, racism, and the Darfur crisis, however, are rightly fairly important topics as far as humanity is concerned, and I suspect you will hear about them anywhere you go. Your grades and ambition will probably allow for a smooth transition to pretty much any place (it's a lot easier to transfer into a school than it is applying to it). </p>

<p>Be warned that there are all sort of "idiotic" people at every college. Also, remember you are in general classes. When you get further in your major, most of the people you are around now will not be with you later. Maybe give it a semester and see if you like people in your major/area of career interest. Good luck, and don't drop out just yet!</p>

<p>Would it be improper to ask what college you go to, so as to give others a heads up about the situation there?</p>

<p>I suggest you go see a Navy, Air Force, Army, Marine or Coast Guard recruiter. See if a few years in the service might help put things into perspective for you. If you don't want to be boots on the ground, you should look at Navy, Coast Guard, or Air Force.</p>

<p>You sound extremely arrogant and pompous with no basis. It's no wonder you're not having a good college experience. The fact that you care so much about other people showing up on time is absolutely ridiculous. </p>

<p>From a practical, career standpoint, transferring is a better idea, though LFWBDad also has a good point.</p>

<p>If you are prepared to support yourself and you are over 18, you don't need to convince anyone other than yourself. </p>

<p>It can work well for people to take a break from college and work for while or join the military. You are likely to go back later, probably somewhere different and then cruise through.</p>

<p>AFPrep: You sound like you don't like the people that surround you, not college itself. </p>

<p>If you could jump ahead and graduate with a degree in your major do you think you would be happy working in that field? Can you see yourself in that job in 5 years and the career path that follows? </p>

<p>Maybe you just have to put your head down and "git it done" as the saying goes. It doesn't have to be your social outlet. Consider it a job and do it. I commuted to college and worked my way through. I only had a few friends on campus but many friends at work. School was my job. It's really hard as a commuter to be part of the school and feel involved. Don't fight it. Take it for what it is; a means to an end. It will never be cheaper than it is now. You will never have as few obligations as you do now. It is proven that a college grad makes many more $$$ than a HS grad. Money= choice. Don't you want to go through life with as many choices as possible? After this semester you are half way there. 60 more weeks of school and you are out with a BA. 300 more days of class! That's all. Less than a year.</p>

<p>So change your attitude. Spend more time at work and look for friends there. See college as a means to an end and do it. It builds character;)</p>

<p>His post history says he goes to La Roche (sorry, sorry, I'm not a stalker I promise)</p>

<p>AF, sounds like your college is not a good fit for you. Don't give up on education, look for one that gives you what you want. I had never heard of La Roche--so looked it up in my handbook (granted stats are a few years out of date). It sounds like it generally doesn't attract students with higher academic records which may be what you are seeing (only 49% had high school gpa over a 3.0). If you want to stay in Pittsburgh, why don't you look at U. of Pitt--you have done much of your gen ed requirements, so will be entering major classes and will have smaller classes. I think you will meet a wider variety of people also with a larger campus.</p>

<p>You have to realize people on college campuses are young. You might have to reconcile your problems, because the texting, coming to class late, and liberalism sounds like 99.9% of college campuses save perhaps Liberty or Bob Jones. You just sound so pretentious, because I know kids like you on my campus who think that everyone else is so stupid and I hate them. Obviously you commute so that is a problem, but you are complaining about people being concerned about issues! And you label that with liberalism, any person with decent MORALS cares about Darfur, Global Warming and racism, just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't matter, especially when you are concerned with petty matters such as texting and phone calls. See the bigger picture. Look ant another school in PA, maybe Penn State, because if you can't find your niche there, there is something wrong with YOU for sure, because it is so big. Maybe U Pitt, CMU (if you have good grades), Lehigh, etc. Just change your attitude, because you sound pathetic.</p>

<p>"I'm in a few clubs, but the people there aren't the kind I'd chill out with--I am like the only conservative one on campus and if I have to hear about global warming, racism, war protesters, or Darfur one more time I'll have to shoot myself."</p>

<p>No wonder why your screen name is AFPrep.</p>

<p>I think the military would suit you best.</p>

<p>Hey now, nyuwishabee.</p>

<p>Yeah, I think transferring sounds like a good idea.</p>

<p>Texting and coming to class late doesn't happen on 99.9% of campuses - at my college, Professors will call you out if you try either of them (largest class cap is 50, so they'll see you).</p>

<p>I would think a well educated conservative would enjoy debating with educated liberals.
I am willing to bet that there is no problem with the college or students, it's you. You sound bitter, pompous, and very asocial. It looks like you are blaming the outside before considering yourself. A point of evidence for my claim is how you are so busy complaining about the school and its students instead of considering where you really want to be.</p>

<p>I, however, will sit corrected if you could provide a reasonable argument against your current situation.</p>

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Texting and coming to class late doesn't happen on 99.9% of campuses - at my college, Professors will call you out if you try either of them (largest class cap is 50, so they'll see you).

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Oh I thought he said just constant phone talking/texting in general, not in class, that doesn't really happen, but people are late and skip occassionaly. What just ticks me off is that you care so much about what other people are doing in class, yet you don't care about what is happening in the world.<br>
Fix yourself and you'll have a beter college experience.</p>

<p>Why are you folks being so hard on this fellow? There's no reason why he should feel comfortable with fellow students who are not serious, and overtly so. There's no reason for him to take "blame." People leave colleges all the time, to other colleges or to take a break and work for awhile.</p>

<p>You don't need to drop out out , you need to transfer! In real life not having a college degree will hurt you BIG time down the road, so don't imperil your future because the college you are at is not a good fit. Do some serious research and find a school [ they're out there] that you would be happier at. Just so you know, my son is in the exact same situation as you , and is actively pursuing transfering as we speak. You may want to look at the University of Chicago as an option- their transfer deadline is April 1.You can let me know if you want more info about Chicago.</p>

<p>skip town on la roche. i dont know what state your from but transfer to the University of (insert state name here). You'll fit in no matter what state it is.</p>

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I would think a well educated conservative would enjoy debating with educated liberals.

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The problem seems a well-educated conservative debating with non-educated liberals</p>