<p>Let me explain some stuff. I realized that if I don't make friends with girls, I am limiting myself to making friends with 50 percent of all people I will meet in my life. I am sure there are many interesting people out there who are female. I am not interested in sex or a girlfriend at the moment, I just want to be able to talk to girls.</p>
<p>But that's where the problem is. I can't seem to last 5 minutes in any conversation with a girl. When I try to talk to them, sometimes I get some responses that I would not expect. For example, one girl walked in late and I was like "you get the punctuality award" and she was like "yeah it happens." I assume she thought I was flirting with her, and she did not want to flirt with me. But that was not my goal! I enjoy having fun and talking about funny stuff. It's like when I make "yo momma" jokes to my guy friends, it's to be funny and have fun. When I see other guys talking loudly and laughing along with girls, I feel jealous because that is something I can never do.</p>
<p>I'm fine with guys, guys are awesome and fun to hang out with, but I assume girls are too. Unfortunately, I can never find a girl who ever wants to talk to me!</p>
<p>DON'T talk to them about your love life, especially if your love life makes you look like a womanizing player. (I have a guyfriend like this and I really can't stand him anymore).</p>
<p>for one, dont give up at this moment. everything takes time. start by first talking to ladies in your same class- simple stuff like hw, your teacher, invite them to lunch. Obviously at lunch and dinner and stuff just talk about general- not very intrusive questions- stuff to them, like what are you hobbies and what you love to do in general. obviously from that point, those who have similar interests as you do will stick by and those who dont, you probably wont need to talk to them every again. But that is your first step for girls</p>
<p>Seriously? You know how some people say to get women you have to treat them like crap? Well, same thing applies, only diluted. Don't try to come off too pally, and you'll seem more reserved and interesting.</p>
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<p>Doesn't that assume you want to get into a relationship, and you don't just want to be friends? Also, I don't see how the logic works there. If you seem more reserved to create interest, wouldn't that interest lead them to talking to you more, causing them to find out how you truly are which may lead them to not talk to you again, thus negating the point of appearing reserved in the first place?</p>
<p>You'll realize girls and guys don't talk about the same stuff. Last time I checked, females don't discuss the latest DOTA release or debate whether Mill is an act or rule utilitarian.</p>
<p>BLUF: you're going to get a bunch of varied responses in here, but you'll find almost none of it is practical.</p>
<p>You need more experience, it sounds like you totally misinterpreted the situation with the girl. When you make a sarcastic remark like the punctuality award, they should respond by either laughing it off or ignoring you. You got a "yeah, it happens", which is a pretty neutral reply. There is no flirting involved in that, and I doubt the girl thought that. </p>
<p>You can talk to girls just like guys, except try to be more mature if you normally tell "yo momma" jokes to guys.</p>
<p>If you've got a personality better than a wet cat, then just realize that women are people and treat them as you treat people. It's really a simple thing for me-- sure, in some ways, you need a bit more tact, but for hte most part, unless you're some outrageous *******, you'll probably find that 90% of what you do making a guy friend applies (same game, different interests typically).</p>
<p>You don't need to make friends with everyone...</p>
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<p>Shouldn't assume things... hehe. ;P Well I for one do not like girls. Guys are much more fun to be around. (And I am a girl.) Most of my friends, even my closer ones, are guys. </p>
<p>Good luck on finding an interesting girl who will talk to you..</p>
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<p>Wrong. Modestmelody has it right. </p>
<p>Had you made the comment to me about getting the "punctuality award" I would not have thought you were flirting, I would think you were rude.
A smile, or other sympathetic expression would have gone over better..
Girls don't like guys who are jerks, so I disagree with what joso9 suggests. </p>
<p>Confidence is good, but arrogance is a turn-off, whether it be in a friend or relationship.
You might try approaching girls by bringing another guy, or a group of guys and girls. Something like, "We're going to the cafe for lunch. Want to join us?" Is non-threatening and about the right tone for a friend to friend invitation. Once you get to know a girl in a group, it will be easier to become friends.</p>
<p>girls as friends? this is a tricky one..as much as many in our society would have you believe that women are open to inter sex friendships without any level of attraction I have found that even among female/male friendships that are only that (when the girl says "he's like a brother" or he says "we're just friends") at least in my experience they are usually in the girls "league" if you will. So it does happen sometimes but at least in my experience at least one of the parties was attracted to the other and the other either was already in a relationship or not sure how much he/she liked the other. Despite this I have also noticed that you'll find girls that are perceived as ugly with guys perceived as "hot" once in a while in friendships - and I at least haven't really seen any guys that are perceived as ugly with girls perceived as hot in a friendship (though relationships are a different story). Just my experience, not meant to be sweeping or anything like that..</p>
<p>don't open with a cheesy joke! take madambovary's advice stay neutral, ask about class, food, professors etc then work in original humor into the conversation. Cheesy jokes like the one you told about in the 1st post send up a red flag. Relax, talk about regular stuff and quit trying to make a funny guy impression with your first interaction. We mostly have pretty good "he's hitting on me" radar and are turned off by anyone who tries too hard at the outset.</p>
<p>The only reason the act homosexual thign work is because women have the same problem men have-- they don't treat men as people they treat them as men.</p>
<p>If some people would just realize there is no reason to create tension that isn't really there, form expectations that don't need ot exist, and assure yourself that any stereotype and every other instance is a map for how this person will be.</p>