<p>Most of the people I know who are obese have been that way since childhood, and/or are the result of medical problems. Maybe that's the minority but that is why the people I know who are obese and overweight are that way. Just because someone is overweight/obese, doesn't make them a bad or ugly person. Sure, it is possible to lose weight once one gets fat, but it's HARD, especially if you've got medical problems that keep compounding the issue. (ie, you have joint/muscle problems that make it almost impossible to exercise)</p>
<p>i know some truely ugly people who have a "pretty" exterior</p>
<p>I guess I am going to be the first one to say this...I am one of those "ugly", "fat" and "disgusting" people that majority of you speak of. I am 18 years old, 5'6" and 315 pounds. And it is people like you who make us "fat" people feel inferior. It's all the "thin/pretty" people who constantly put us down and make us feel worthless. It's easy for you all to sit at your computers and judge something you know nothing about. It isn't that easy to lose weight. It takes perserverence and determination to lose enough weight not to be considered "ugly" and "fat" by today's standards. And even with that being said we are way less inclined to want to lose weight because you "skinny/pretty" people have use feeling so down on ourselves that many of us feel worthless and that even with less weight on us that we will never be pretty. So I say this show is AMAZING. It gives obese women their self esteem back. It's beautifying the inside. And with that "beautifying" on the outside can take place. So, next time you're walking down the street and you see a "fat" person don't be so quick to judge you have no idea what is going on inside their head. </p>
<p>AND...just for the record I absolutely L-O-V-E my body and the way I look. Of course I wouldn't like to be as heavy as I am but I am very accepting of it. I was obviously made this way for a reason. I have tried to lose weight and it was very difficult for me. The way I look at it there are way worse things that could be "wrong" with me. So I approach each day with a huge smile on my face and a go to hell attitude if you don't like it.</p>
<p>Eating healthy is expensive and even financially unviable for some people. Dinner a la' the dollar menu every night is cheaper than buying unprocessed food for a week. Water (that is, bottle water) is more expensive than soda. Juice is more expensive than soda. Soda's the new water with none of the benefits.</p>
<p>good for you, uniquelythesame. I sort of understand where you are coming from because while I'm not very overweight, I am a little, and still self-conscious of my body because of people who say that only thin is pretty and things like that. I have cellulite, and a flabby stomach and love handles. I am a size 12, and weigh about 168 pounds. This is borderline overweight for my height (5'9") but it makes me feel like an effing cow when people are all like, "OMG she wears a TEN?! WHAT A FATTY!" I am very sympathetic to the plight of overweight and obese because of my own experience and the experiences of my mom and my best friend, both of whom are large women.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but I will never sympathize with the fatman's plight.</p>
<p>Diet and excercise work. Period.</p>
<p>For proof, consult Science and Jared from the subway add.</p>
<p>Someone else's weight is none of your business so just mind your own business!</p>
<p>^^^
people's outward appearance does and always will one of the most important parts of first impressions. The first thing you notice about someone is their size.</p>
<p>uhhh guys... there is nothing wrong with being a little overweight although it is slightly unhealthy. however, once you are considered obese it is extremely unhealthy! hence it's considered a disease. people who are considered obese shouldn't be worried about whether or not they are attractive. they should be worried about their health! for the most part, most of the people in the United States are obese due to poor diets. some though, due to genetics, are more succeptible than others. but that should make them work that much harder to maintain a healthy weight. </p>
<p>bottomline, maintaining a normal weight is not mearly about being attractive; it's about being healthy.</p>
<p>My parents went to Europe over the summer. They remarked about how few obese Europeans they saw. For the main part, all the obese people were tourist. When they went to dinners over there the food portions were tiny compared to ours.</p>
<p>In other words, being over weight has more to do with what you eat, and perhaps more importantly how much you eat. Poor diet=main reason for obesity.</p>
<p>citygirlsmom-That's a great point about the truth of people vs. their outward appearance.</p>
<p>uniquelythesame-I found your post very courageous.</p>
<p>I don't hate obese people, just as I don't hate an AIDS patient. But could you imagine if we tried to make AIDS seem desirable, instead of emphasizing safe sex, to protect the feelings of those with AIDS?</p>
<p>That is what we are doing by protecting obesity. Obesity is more than ugly; it is unhealthy, banrkupts our medical system, lowers productivity, and diminishes the reputation of America, i.e "the fat American". Other first world countries simply do not have this problem. Should we gloss over this societal illness, letting more and more people die from heart failure and diabetes? Or should we confront obesity as both the physical and mental illness that it is?</p>
<p>Also, why do women feel entitled to refuse dating shorter men, while refusing to take care of themselves, even though height is not in a man's control, where weight is? I should pretend to be attracted to fat women? Why don't you pretend being attracted to a 130lb, 5'4 male.</p>
<p>I wonder how many people that lecture fat people about being unhealthy binge on alcohol...</p>
<p>Nobody has suggested having AIDS or being fat is "desirable." Obesity and AIDS are illnesses, and people with illnesses deserve the same respect as healthy individuals. Rather than deriding obese people and making unsubstantiated, grandiose, and illogical claims about why people are obese and how their illness affects the "reputation" of America, be grateful that you don't suffer from obesity or AIDS. </p>
<p>I know many shorter males and they are all happy in their married/dating lives. I also know a number of obese women who are equally happy in their married/dating lives. If people aren't attracted to you it likely has nothing to do with your being "130lb, 5'4." </p>
<p>People are attracted to attractive people and attractiveness often has nothing to do with outward appearance. People are likewise repelled by unattractive people and unattractiveness often has nothing to do with outward appearance.</p>
<p>"People are attracted to attractive people and attractiveness often has nothing to do with outward appearance. People are likewise repelled by unattractive people and unattractiveness often has nothing to do with outward appearance."</p>
<p>What world do you live in?????? Ugly people can have charming personalities, but there is not likely to be much physical attraction.</p>
<p>I have nothing against people who are overweight, I would never make fun of someone who happens to be obese. But, I can never understand how people say they "try" to lose weight and it just doesn't work for them. Like oxypunk said Poor Diet=Obesity, by eating small portions of healthy foods and excercising daily anyone can be healthy and lose weight. If you're too lazy to eat healthy and excercise then you should never complain about you're weight. If you don't mind being overweight, then best of luck, but obese people shouldn't complain, it's usually their fault. </p>
<p>As for the show, I think it's pretty stupid. People don't want to see fat people in lingerie because it's unattractive. If you have poor self esteem because of you're weight, then get on the treadmill and put down the big mac.</p>
<p>I haven't seen the show, but I think we can find a happy medium. How about we don't judge overweight people and accuse them of being a drain on society, but teach them that they CAN feel good about themselves, thereby empowering them and allowing them to strive for the healthiest weight and lifestyle they can possibly achieve. </p>
<p>Because if you feel like crap, you'll eat junk, gain more weight and feel worse. (And, for the record, there are a lot of metabolic reasons why some people are overweight; factors that are completely out of their control. I eat a lot of junk and barely exercise and am nowhere near being fat. I don't think my lifestyle is any better than a lot of overweight people's.)</p>
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I'm sorry, but I will never sympathize with the fatman's plight.</p>
<p>Diet and excercise work. Period.</p>
<p>For proof, consult Science and Jared from the subway add.
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<p>Agreed completely.</p>
<p>it seems to me that the people making intelligent comments on this thread, the ones providing helpful ideas and engaging in useful debate...are women. </p>
<p>someone wrote that they hate fat, ugly people. well, i hate cocky high school and college aged boys who act like they're god's gift and have the right to treat other human beings without respect. (note: my best friend is a guy in my class, and i'm well aware that there are kind gentlemen out there) </p>
<p>someone also said that all the fat people should lose weight and then there wouldnt be any left. well maybe all you boys could get attitude adjustments and then there wouldnt be any of you left, either. </p>
<p>problem solved.</p>
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I don't hate obese people, just as I don't hate an AIDS patient. But could you imagine if we tried to make AIDS seem desirable, instead of emphasizing safe sex, to protect the feelings of those with AIDS?</p>
<p>That is what we are doing by protecting obesity. Obesity is more than ugly; it is unhealthy, banrkupts our medical system, lowers productivity, and diminishes the reputation of America, i.e "the fat American". Other first world countries simply do not have this problem. Should we gloss over this societal illness, letting more and more people die from heart failure and diabetes? Or should we confront obesity as both the physical and mental illness that it is?
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QFT .</p>
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People are attracted to attractive people and attractiveness often has nothing to do with outward appearance. People are likewise repelled by unattractive people and unattractiveness often has nothing to do with outward appearance.
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I'm with halbhalb in asking, "what world do you live in?"</p>