<p>okay we get it. Its hard to be fat, these hero's need our sympathy.</p>
<p>Ignore the fact that there are paraplegics and people with prosthetics who manage to get more excercise.</p>
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that site you linked to isn't very good. first off, body mass index, suffers from the fact that you can be heavy but in fact healthy. people who work out will gain muscle weight which would make their bmi higher than usual. that's just an extreme example, but needless to say big people aren't necessary unhealthy. the other methods of calculating the 'ideal' weight have links which point out the flaws so i won't get into that here.
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i addressed that in my post and that issue is also addressed on the site.</p>
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The PeoplesChoice Ideal Weight Calculator uses the formulas shown above for Adults, but not for Children. For ages under 18.5 years, the calculator substitutes the 50th percentile weight, according to height, age and gender, determined from NHANES III data. Doing so provides results that have a smooth junction between Adults and Children, for persons of normal weight. This approach is not entirely satisfactory for overweight kids, unfortunately.</p>
<p>This calculator does not have a way to provide reasonable results for people who have extra muscles, such as for bodybuilders or atheletes.
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<p>Man, you guys are harsh. Sure, it's better not to be obese. But if you are obese, why is it so bad to be happy with yourself? You can be happy with yourself while still seeing areas for improvement. I think the show's just about learning to love yourself - we ALL have flaws. We ALL do things that are unhealthy. But that doesn't mean we all have to berate ourselves constantly for them.</p>
<p>I definitely urge you guys to check out Joy Nash's "Fat Rant" on YouTube. I found it fascinating and empowering, even as a girl who is well within healthy weight limits.
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=yUTJQIBI1oA%5B/url%5D">http://youtube.com/watch?v=yUTJQIBI1oA</a></p>
<p>Do you realize that the human body is literally designed to do everything in its will to fight against you losing weight? Do you know about the dozens upon dozens of disorders that cause people to hold onto weight? "</p>
<p>First off, disorders cannot be blamed the majority of obesity cases today in this country. 50 years ago people were not as fat as they are now, and I doubt it is because of dozens of brand new disorders springing up. The human body is designed to metabolize food. If you eat HEALTHY foods and don't starve your body, you WILL lose weight.</p>
<p>"Can you imagine the sheer terror of going to a gym filled with fit, beautiful people and looking horribly out of place? Do you know how it feels to work out for 5 minutes, only to be dripping in disgusting sweat and feeling like you'll never breathe again?"</p>
<p>I have yet to go to a gym filled with fit, beautiful people. Most of the gyms I have been are filled with middle aged, slightly overweight people in poorly fitting clothes. The fact that working out for 5 minutes causes you to be drenched in sweat should a wake up call, not a deterrent to get in shape. No one a gym is going to judge you for how much you are sweating. Of course you will, you are supposed to be working yourself hard. Further, many people in any given gym probably started coming because they thought that they were too overweight and will likely be supportive of your attempt to get in better shape. Nobody said losing weight would be easy, simply that it was possible with a little dedication.</p>
<p>"Have you ever stood on a scale in tears because you eaten only 800 calories a day, WAY below what you should have, exercised every day, and STILL haven't lost any weight in the past 3 weeks?"</p>
<p>Never in tears, but if you will see my previous posts, you will know that I have faced the pressure of needing to lose weight. Eating 800 calories a day is a GREAT way NOT to lose weight. If you starve your body it will shut down and you will have no energy to work out. You CANNOT lose any significant amount weight by not eating. If you eat a healthy, balanced diet (which can include the occasional hamburger or frappacino) and maintain a moderate level of exercise, you WILL lose weight.</p>
<p>"So, please, if you think you're some sort of genius just because you know the oh-so-perfect formula for weight loss, why don't you tell us how it worked for you."</p>
<p>I don't claim to be a genius, nor do I claim that you need to be to take care of your body. At my current height (5' 5"), my weight has varied between 110lbs and 135lbs, more or less the healthy extremes. I try to get to the gym at least several times a week and take the stairs instead of the elevator. I limit fast food to once or twice a week (probably still too much), and indulge in Starbucks at least twice a month. </p>
<p>"And then, on top of all this to have people pointing at you, making fun of you for something they could NEVER in a million years understand. Do they know how your weight is really a sign of depression or other mental illness? Do they understand that overeating is a way for you to mask your unhappiness with your life? Or do they know that your dad put a padlock on your fridge when you were a kid, and you were hungry all the time? Of course not."</p>
<p>How about instead of hiding behind your obesity and using it as an excuse to continue to overeat and live an unhealthy lifestyle, you do something about it. Instead of living a passive life, you could take action and change, but apparently, you are perfectly content blaming others for your problems.</p>
<p>^ I agree. Wouldn't any of these signs you have listed be a wake up call? What can you gain by blaming everybody else for your actions? Sure your mom fed you McDonalds when you were a kid everyday. Sure your father locked the fridge to make you stop eating. Whatever happened, happened and now its time for you to at least acknowledge something is wrong here, and attempt to fix it. Yes they might have caused your problems, but you are the only one who can fix it.</p>
<p>And yes, I have had several unwanted life style changes in my life as well. I moved many times, lived with several different people and families. And I tell you now, that was MUCH harder than changing your diet style. I had to change my life completely INCLUDING my diet. It wasn't always easy but I survived. </p>
<p>And sweating? that usually just makes me feel better because I feel like I'm REALLY working out... Like I don't sweat when I'm on a elliptical or something but I sweat alot playing DDR (and playing DDR made me lose alot of weight alone)</p>
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How about the horror of going around the grocery store, having to buy tasteless foods when your favorite snacks are staring you the face.
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<p>Oh the horror!</p>
<p>How could I ever pick up the carrot sticks over the double stuffed oreos, which somehow jumped off the shelf and got up to my eye level to stare me in the face?</p>
<p>Another reason for fatties to lose weight:</p>
<p>Excuse me if seem to have little sympathy for those who are obese. I was 250lbs at 5'8" when I was 15, lost over 100lbs and am now 6'2" 190lbs after weight training and eating more(I was emaciated at 140). Being fat was psychologically terrible--the lack of motivation, self-esteem and such. But I realized that a life of rationalizing my decisions and making excuses wasn't going to cut it. If most of the complainers heeded my advice, we wouldn't be having this discussion.</p>
<p>halbhalb, you're 5'5 and consider 115 to 135 to be extremes for weight at your height? hahaha that's pretty funny because i'm the same height. i just got to 135, and i'm anything but fat. 115 might be pretty extreme on being skinny perhaps but 135 is not the fat extreme</p>
<p>^^no sorry, I worded that poorly. By "healthy extremes", I meant that anything between around 115 and 135 is a healthy weight, not any absolute range. If you are 105 you are probably really skinny, and if you are 145 you are probably a little chubby. My range was also based on my relatively small frame.</p>
<p>oh ok i understand. i'm actually trying to go to 145-150 but mostly muscle if possible.</p>
<p>yea, thats totally different. A lot of muscle mass totally throws off all calculations.</p>