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<p>nobody is giving me chances.</p>
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<p>It says sad above ;)</p>
<p>i think your chances are as solid as everyone elses. which means about 6 or 7% for the more competitive ivies.</p>
<p>i liked the creative sad poster</p>
<p>Anyone else?</p>
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<p>Your urm status can be a tip factor for you in admission given that you are part black. However, I wouldn't count on getting in just because of this. Many factors are considered. Based on SAT Scores that you've given, I would say that Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Brown, Cornell (Arts & Sciences and Engineering), and Penn (The College and Wharton) are all reaches. Your GPA may appear to be high, but how does your GPA compare to the rest of your classmates? Basically, where do you stand academically in your class? Are you in the Top 5% or 10% of your class? Even though many schools do not rank, they do have deciles. A 3.7 - 3.8 uw gpa can be high depending on where you stand in your class. If you're in the Top 30%, then your GPA may not be as high as thought.</p>
<p>I'll bite</p>
<p>You will be evaluated against the pool of other black candidates. They may be students with higher scores, better grades, better EC's, essays, more geographically desireable, the list goes on.</p>
<p>You will also be looked at in context of what you bring to the table. Because you are black will it make you a shoo-in at some of the schools you are looking at ? Nope. There was a black student with a 1510 the was rejected ED at Columbia this cycle and a number of blacks with higher scores that what you are presenting were deferred EA at Harvard and Yale this cycle.</p>
<p>A lot of things will depend on the insititutional mission: if the school is looking to increase their number of first generation /low income students. If the school is looking to increase the number of african american students with roots in the south (because they are truly the unrepresented black population at schools), etc.</p>
<p>Over the next few years, the competition to get into college especially selective schools is going to be really stiff just because of the sheer number of applicanats (this includes URMs). </p>
<p>From the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education </p>
<p>Yale Tops the Ivy League in Black Freshman Enrollments: </p>
<p>JBHE has completed its annual collection of data on black first-year enrollments at the eight Ivy League colleges and universities. Blacks make up 9.3 percent of the first-year students at Yale University this fall. This is the highest rate in the Ivy League and the highest rate at Yale in the past decade. A year ago, only 6.7 percent of the entering class at Yale was black. </p>
<p>Harvard University also had a good year in attracting black students. There are 145 black freshmen at Harvard this fall. They make up 8.9 percent of the first-year class. </p>
<p>At the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Dartmouth College, blacks make up slightly more than 7 percent of the entering class. At Columbia University and Brown University, blacks are 6.8 percent of the freshman classes. </p>
<p>As has been the case for the past 13 years since JBHE began collecting statistics on black first-year enrollments in the Ivy League colleges, Cornell University has the smallest percentage of blacks in its entering class. This fall blacks are 4.7 percent of the freshman class at Cornell. </p>
<p>Black Applicants Surge at Harvard and Dartmouth: </p>
<p>Harvard reported this past week that it received a total of 22,717 applications for the class that will enter this fall. The number of applicants rose by 15 percent from last year's total. Black applications for the freshman class increased at an even higher rate. Harvard reports that black applicants increased 28.3 percent from last year. A university spokesperson stated that the huge jump in applicants may be due to the new Harvard Financial Aid Initiative, which essentially eliminates out-of-pocket tuition and room and board expenses for students who come from families with incomes of less than $40,000 per year. </p>
<p>In the year after the Cornel West controversy, black enrollments dipped slightly at Harvard. Now it appears that Harvard has weathered that storm as well as last summer's controversy surrounding the denial of tenure to African-American studies professor Marcyliena Morgan. This denial of tenure caused Professor Morgan and her husband, Lawrence Bobo, the esteemed sociologist and member of the National Academy of Sciences, to take tenured teaching positions at Stanford. </p>
<p>At Dartmouth College, overall applications surged to their highest level in history. The admissions office reports that applications from "students of color" represented 25 percent of the total pool. Applications from blacks were at their highest level in the past four years. Good evidence that a frigid winter climate does not necessarily deter black applications to a college that is otherwise seen as receptive to black students. </p>
<p>What does this mean overall for blacks; every one has to step up their game as being a URM is still going to be a hook, the pool in this population is going to be more competitive, with more choices given to those that bring the overall "A" game to the table, as the pool is also participating in more rigerous courses offered by their school.</p>
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<p>Why, because he agrees with positions that contradict that of Jesse Jackson and the black establishment? Because he's not a tool of Farrakhan and Sharpton? In that case, John Kerry isn't "acting white", because more whites support the Republican party. That's a joke. What, are people like Thomas Sowell, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice just "Uncle Toms"?</p>
<p>That's the most bigoted thing I've seen in a while.</p>
<p>The funny part is people are actually taking this kid seriously.</p>
<p>And in doing so, they're letting out the vicious side of anti-affirmative action. They're being played for fools.</p>
<p>He posts "anyone else" like he is still just looking for his chances. What a foo.</p>
<p>I still am looking for chances. Stop call me a foo. That is an insult. :(</p>
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<p>People already advised you, now stop posting the same thing over and over.</p>
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<p>Listen, if you "want Ivies," then do what you gotta do in order to get there.</p>
<p>Please, everyone stop posting and feeding the troll.</p>
<p>I'm sorry if I'm posting too late, but I really wanted to get my opinion in.</p>
<p>I'm 14 years old, and looking at a pretty prestigious performing arts high school. I'm certainly hoping to get accepted, but AA would be the worst thing to be accepted for. On my application, it asked me what race I was. I of course put african american (which I'm probably about 3/4-4/4 of, but it doesn't matter). It's nothing to be ashamed of. I just hope they only see my artwork or me, because my artwork or my personality of course defines me much better than any picture. Considering I'm not a stereotype by far (I've been called oreo, white, cocnut, since I like to wear, listen to, and talk like what is defined as being "white" which is totally ridiculous), you couldn't define me at all unless you know me or see my artwork. </p>
<p>What I'm saying is, like many here, is that you should approach them with everything except race. If you try to elongate the stereotype, you're setting your standards low, so people won't expect crap from you. You end up making it worse for people of any color ready and willing to work for what they want because standards or expectancy are so low. Those are the types who want the hard things and not be handed an A when they really should have a C.</p>
<p>I'm also pretty upset that you're only 1/4 black and only noticed it seriously until you knew it could get you an elevator ride instead of stairs. Work for the ivy school by doing your work, not by saying 'I'm Black' to everyone thinking there's going to be ivy league doors magically opening even though there's african americans GENIUSES there already who got in for the right reasons.</p>
<p>Maybe I'm beating a dead horse, but I said what I had to say.....</p>
<p>Well, I'm black and I honestly didn't put that i'm black and proud and my discrimination on the application like that but I can see why you used that to your advantage but if you really wanted to impress them you should of made it your whole semester exams project like me and have that english teacher recommend you and on how your project was a book about describing the struggle of being black but besides that let's stop all the negative criticism she gets the point</p>
<p>This thread makes me sick!!</p>
<p>It's extremely nauseating....oops..I threw up.</p>