<h2>A CCer.</h2>
<p>Continue.</p>
<p>The majority of the people who view the threads on here are as well.</p>
<p>I am.</p>
<p>I just am, for now, but I like all other CCers have dedicated my life to getting into HYPSMB (yes all of them) and not doing anything else. Then I can have a shiny diploma. SHINY.</p>
<p>Cogito Ergo Sum</p>
<p>I think</p>
<p>therefore I am</p>
<p>You are solely proving that you think.</p>
<p>Actually, you solely are proving you can type and click buttons.</p>
<p>Thought must be first initiated to recognize those buttons.</p>
<p>However, there is no way to definitively prove that you are typing and clicking buttons.</p>
<p>God. I am God.</p>
<p>There is some doubt (judging from posts here) that thought is always involved in the production of these posts.
Although technically, you need to integrate the processes of sight and movement, which requires the brain. ;)</p>
<p>And that reminds me of a story…Professor of phil. asks his students to prove that an apple does not exist. Most students write pages and pages…One student thinks for a bit, (key word thinks :D), and writes down two words and leaves. Professor picks up the exam book, curious–“What apple?”</p>
<p>Lol, sorry, the concept of Idealism is intriguing:)</p>
<p>What is Idealism??</p>
<p>The belief that nothing aside from thought can be definitively proven haha</p>
<p>Corollary: In some people, nothing can be proven.<–This bodes ill for humankind in general…</p>
<p>That’s an interesting concept.</p>
<p>I think that’s associated with the accepted beliefs of facts and theories in that deductive reasoning is used.</p>
<p>So…if thought can be proven to exist…everything that follows from it…reasoning, imagination…also exists? And all perception is a thought that does not follow from ordered concepts?</p>
<p>Lol, it’s a difficult concept. I think that one can prove that thought itself exists, but the thoughts formulated by individuals might not be valid. </p>
<p>Reasoning is based off of obsevations and information that has been provided by society, something that might not be valid. After all, where did society derive those conclusions from? How can we provide definitive evidence of ideas and facts associated with information? The facts are what we believe to be the facts. Correct information is agreed upon by a composition of people who compromise their beliefs in an effort to appease society as a whole. Therefore, nothing can be definitively proven as true. It’s more of a perception and belief of what may be true.</p>
<p>Also, thanks for joining our club!:)</p>
<p>We derive our facts from our perception. Thoughts are derived from facts–opinions, connections, or deductions. If what we perceive does not exist, i.e. you cannot prove that the apple exists, but you are drawing a conclusion based on its existence and what you perceive are its characteristics, then no thought is valid. Then there is only imagination.</p>
<p>Lol, yes, very exclusive 
I was getting worried for Maple’s health, he hasn’t been on.</p>
<p>We formulate facts based off of a composition of individuals’ beliefs. I think that thoughts comprise facts in addition to being derived from facts. </p>
<p>I think that while you can’t prove that it exists, you can’t also prove that it doesn’t exist, which means that thought is valid, as it is a perception. People possess different thoughts, and those thoughts in composition compose the facts. The facts are what society believes are the facts, not what one individual believes are the facts. What society identifies as imagination could in fact be the reality, similarly to dreams. There is no way to prove that our comprehension of dreams and reality may in fact be opposite. Perhaps the dream is the reality, while what we acknowledge as reality is relevant to a dream. What society believes and what is truly valid may contrast with one another. </p>
<p>This is interesting though. Thanks for that point:)</p>
<p>We have a tendency to go off topic lol</p>
<p>Hmm. About dreams–I believe that reality is life as we experience it when governed by physical laws and expectations, and dreams are life without rules, which is why they can be both so pleasant and so frightening. But this is a topic much better covered in a different forum ;)</p>
<p>About different people possessing different thoughts. Compiling these thoughts does not comprise sorting out the “facts.” As we have already established that “facts” cannot be proven in the outside world–the one not governed by thoughts, or that we perceive–and if we note that people cannot share thoughts, i.e. you cannot say with absolute certainty both that the person next to you is thinking such-and-such and that the person is not a figment of your imagination, then compiling lots of thoughts will be an exercise in futility–every person will come up with a different set of facts, all depending on the extent and tendencies of his/her imagination.</p>
<p>Another thing I just thought of is that, if by thought you can conceive of your own existence (although I think the point was refuted in an earlier post), then you can also imagine clones of yourself, i.e. other people. What intrigues me is how you can imagine the differences between people. If they are just figments of your imagination, then you will see greater differences based on the power of your imagination. They will agree or disagree with you (provide you with new viewpoints/thoughts) based on the power of your imagination.</p>
<p>Then what is the difference between perception and imagination?</p>
<p>Lol this discussion is fun. That ^ was long.</p>
<p>:eek: .</p>