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<li><p>Harvard, Columbia, Yale, Princeton. How's the program at Duke and UChicago?</p></li>
<li><p>Popular in how far it can take me. </p></li>
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<p>I'm new to this part of the site. I usually post in Prep School Admission. I'm an 8th grader going to Andover next year and am starting to think ahead. </p>
<p>You don't need to tell me how impossibly hard it is to get into Harvard from Andover. I already know.</p>
<p>All schools except Princeton (which I'm not too sure of) are renowned for their Business/finance majors. UChicago has a top of the line economics program which I know for sure I'm not so sure about Duke.</p>
<p>In terms of how far it can take you, although the Ivys including Duke & Chicago can open many doors, it all boils down to your personality and skills & don't forget how able you are to network.
Did I answer your question?</p>
<p>Stop whining, it's irritating. I was also waitlisted Cornell and Brown and rejected by Columbia. I got in JHU and WUSTL, and am pretty pleased. People would kill to get into these colleges. You do know JHU is ranked the same as Brown? There are many people who got into state colleges and are happy.</p>
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"I always thought myself smart enough and good enough for an ivy, and not being accepted to any of them shattered my perception of what i could do"</p>
<p>Not sure why you would think this. Even on the rejection letters it stated that your rejection is not an indication of your inability to do well at those schools but rather the limitations on space....then it goes on to talk about how you'll make it at other fine institutions. Thats enough encouragement for anybody to be resilient and get back on their feet. IMO
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<p>but the people that did get into harvard and the like were not there by random pick--they had an advantage, however small, over the rest of us that did not get in. i guess it is all about making myself feel better--i might apply for a transfer to an ivy after freshman year in college, not to feed my ego but to have the pride of saying i was accepted to an ivy league school. lol.</p>
<p>">>>I had to drink a caramel Macchiato to make myself feel better... >>></p>
<p>To OP: You went a bit too far with that line. "</p>
<p>I really don't see what was so wrong in what he said about the Macchiato. Then again, I really don't know what a Macchiato is so please fill me in.</p>
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It is not nice to joke about rejections. There are real people who are feeling terrible today- whether rationally or irrationally.
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I'm sure that if a lot of people in your class at your academic and extracuricular level got into ivies and you didn't, you probably wouldn't feel great... and yes, the starbucks thing was true and yes, it made me feel a bit better.</p>
<p>I completely understand the pressure you were under
Some will hate me for saying this, but they just don't understand what you're feeling. </p>
<p>Immigrants are a bit different from "native" Americans. People back home won't know a second-rate school; they only know the top schools such as the ones you mentioned. I know going to a university isn't only about getting the brand-name, but it DOES matter a lot to first-generation immigrants like us.</p>
<p>But... since the process is over... you might want to consider getting your acts together. Those schools aren't you or your family's first choice, but they are superb schools. You shouldn't live a depressed life just because certain colleges didn't accept you. You are only going there as an undergraduate... if you continue to work hard, you still have a chance applying as a graduate.</p>
<p>Cheer up and smile and tell your family you're not a failure. Winning is about who crosses the FINISH line FIRST!</p>
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People back home won't know a second-rate school; they only know the top schools such as the ones you mentioned. I know going to a university isn't only about getting the brand-name, but it DOES matter a lot to first-generation immigrants like us.
<p>Alice, you are using the term "second-rate" for Georgetown and the like? And saying you are "only" going there as an undergraduate?</p>
<p>Wow. I am finding this too much to take, and will unsubscribe. If the OP is authentic, that's a far more sad attitude than being an April Fool's jokester.</p>
<p>Corsten, get a grip. JHU, Georgetown, etc. are all fine schools. Your parents need to remember that this is America, not the old country, and that THEIR perceptions of what are the only "valid" schools to get into bears absolutely no relationship to the reality in the US. You can get anywhere you need to go from JHU or Georgetown. </p>
<p>It's ironic that it's always so much about prestige -- because there's nothing "prestigious" about being so unworldly and so unsophisticated that you actually think that the only colleges worth attending are Ivies. I hate to tell you, but in the real world people laugh at the kind of people who chase Ivies with such desperation.</p>
<p>"Immigrants are a bit different from "native" Americans. People back home won't know a second-rate school; they only know the top schools such as the ones you mentioned. I know going to a university isn't only about getting the brand-name, but it DOES matter a lot to first-generation immigrants like us."</p>
<p>So WHAT?? Why are you all so obsessed with what the "people back home" think? The people back home don't have a CLUE if they seriously think that the Ivies are the only colleges worth going to in America.</p>
<p>Why are you spending time worrying about what people who aren't in the US, don't have any idea what the pecking order is in the US, think? Their perceptions that only the Ivies are worth going to is WRONG. Dead wrong. Any American will tell you that.</p>
<p>I feel for you, man. I faced similar pressure from my parents/ family. I am an international student attending a college in U.S. Last year, my results were good, so gratefully, but weren't as good as what I or my family were hoping for. But, yeah people overseas aren't aware of the fact that there are so many wonderful colleges here in the u.s. besides the ivies, esp. schools like Georgetown, UVa, Hopkins, etc. I really felt sorry and disappointed that I let down my parents. Even my grandparents and cousins called from home on the fateful day of the decisions. I ended up getting rejected from HYPS and many others. Harvard rejection hurt the most, since I was a legacy there and I thought that I had a realistic shot at getting in, since I had near perfect SATs and good gpa, plus I did h.s. summer programs at Harvard from time to tme. But, I moved on and comforted myself with thinking that I gotta get strong emotionally and try to make most out of my current situation. Plus, one trick I learned is to tell yourself and your family that you did your best and that's all you could do. After I got this kind of attitude, my family/parents actually began to feel very proud of me and I got over this mentality that I only had to go to Harvard or Yale. I wish you the best of luck and don't forget that Gtown and Hopkins are both very good schools.</p>
<p>This idea that "people back home" will care about the college of someone in AMerica is silly- if you look at the history of immigrants in this country, you will see that most did not follow that path to the IVY, they worked hard, went to school while working, sent money home, did odd jobs, worked hard hours, etc and people back home didn't go, ohhhh what a loser, not at all</p>
<p>where this comes from is more of what the family here thinks than what anyone back home thinks</p>
<p>and its up to the immigrants here to educate the folks back home</p>