<p>I took a look at several other posts by GR3 and I really have to wonder if his kid was even involved in the application process! Sounds like the parent(s) were WAY too involved. I would think admissions officers can spot those apps in a second and most likely why the results were what they were…</p>
<p>The title of this thread (“I had a 2390 SAT and I was waitlisted”) sums up both Stupefy’s and GR3’s misunderstanding of how a holistic admissions approach works at selective colleges. At a certain point, certainly far below 2390, SATs simply cease to matter. </p>
<p>Stupefy wasn’t just waitlisted at U-Va. She was also waitlisted or rejected from every Ivy League school as well as Duke. Being an out of state applicant, the competition she faced to get into U-Va was at least as severe as several of the other colleges that also waitlisted her. Same goes for GR3.</p>
<p>^Robertr, You are right that I am WAY too involved my kid’s application even though I did not see my applications. </p>
<p>"I would think admissions officers can spot those apps in a second and most likely why the results were what they were… "</p>
<p>Would you please tell me what your thought is based on?</p>
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LOL that was funny. For the record (before, people speculated that my recommendations were my “fatal flaw”), i had already read one of them before I got my decision, and that one was excellent. After I told my other teacher that I had been slaughtered by admissions, he was very surprised and showed me his recommendation. It spoke glowingly of my writing ability (he was my engilsh teacher), my growth, and even said I was one of the best writers he had ever taught. so now I’m just as confused as you are about my results</p>
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Thank you very much and best of luck to your son!</p>
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It’s true that for most top schools, only 50% of the class is “open enrollment” meaning the other half is reserved for URM, legacy, athletes, URS, etc</p>
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If “most top schools” is a group of about 5-10 schools, I might agree with you. This is not the case at UVa.</p>
<p>Well, I said I wasn’t going to comment again and here I am. Once again, I think this is an example of [the</a> CC phenomenon I mentioned earlier](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-virginia/890455-i-had-2390-sat-i-waitlisted-2.html#post1064429842]the”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-virginia/890455-i-had-2390-sat-i-waitlisted-2.html#post1064429842). </p>
<p>That really is the end of my participation in this thread.</p>
<p>I only had a 2060 SAT, few ECs at school, no job, no community service. And I am a Chinese international.
But I got the LL from UVA and I am an Echols Scholar. College admission is just unpredictable.</p>
<p>^Dean J, I know you will not comment it again on this thread. However, if you were one of the admission officer in those ‘top 5-10’ school, it is totally wrong for you to agree with Stupefy about ‘50% open enrollment’ regardless of it is a fact or not. It is just politically incorrect.</p>
<p>I hope I did offend anyone by this especially to Dean J. If I did, please accept my apology.</p>
<p>Bitter much?</p>
<p>Let this thread die.</p>
<p>^^NO!^^</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>My son had 2240 SATs and 4.2 GPA and was waitlisted at Lehigh. This was a bit of a shock since we thought of Lehigh as a sure bet. I was told later by a sister-in-law with three older kids that colleges sometimes put applicants with high stats on the waiting list as a test of their sincerity. I don’t know if this is true but you might want to quickly mail in the card after checking “Yes” and see what happens.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>This thread is a year old, but I actually expected someone to dig it up a couple weeks ago. To put it out there again, UVa does not practice yield protection.</p>
<p>Clearly, there was more the story, but I can’t comment on it.</p>
<p>This is a little embarrassing. I was not paying attention to the date. </p>
<p>I knew there was a name for it–yield protection. I am reading that it is also called “Tufts syndrome”.</p>
<p>UVA does defer people to protect their yield, but only people who are really, really, really overqualified. Because they probably assumed that you would go to a better school and they can give the spots to others who will definitely go if admitted.</p>
<p>You are probably overqualified, because most of the people at my school last year who went to UVA had like 4.0s weighted (about 90th percentile in the class) and 2100s on the sat</p>
<p>UVA does practice OOS percentage protection. The kids I know who were accepted there (all OOS) had some major hook such as athletics, legacy (accepted at in state rates but still counted against the OOS quota), URM. Because they are limited to 1/3 OOS, the OOS pool tends to used to get wish list candidates in place that are difficult to get when one is restricted to one state.</p>
<p>Fjghas - This thread originated in March of 2010. The most recent post was last April. Some things just won’t die. In any event, the OP is now a Jr in college and I’m sure has moved on from this long ago.</p>
<p>this is a super old thread and there’s no evidence that uva practices any kind of yield protection so I think this one should probably get locked…</p>
<p>Agree with blueiguana and hazelorb. OP was called off the waitlist at Penn, and I presume is still there. Lots of high stat kids get in to some top 25 schools, rejected at others, and waitlisted at others; it’s just the way it is.</p>
<p>It seems that the rumor mill is once again in action up there despite my going from school to school in fjghas’ county telling students how things really work in the Office of Admission.</p>
<p>fjghas, please share your source for this information so I can contact the person directly. They are grossly misinformed and are making many students stress over something that is not true. I have to imagine the person is not affiliated with my office in any way.</p>
<p>Again, UVa does not practice yield protection. We do not deny top applicants.</p>
<p>This is the time of year these rumor mill post show up. Students waitlisted and rejected struggle to find out why. Most have worked hard in high school and focused on grades and test scores. They want to check boxes to get into their dream school. ADCOM’s on the other hand are talking wholeheartedly about a holistic approach, diversity and class building. To students and parents of rejected students these are code words which mean we will admit or reject anyone we want for any reason we wish. Students are Dorothy wanting to get to Kansas and the ADCOM is the GREAT AND POWERFUL man behind the curtain. Students get frustrated as they have no control over these aspects of the process. To students the ADCOM has more power and secrecy with less accountability then the CIA.<br>
That’s just the way it is. If there was a better way everyone would be doing it. I would hate to have a job on the ADCOM of a selective school and have to decide which qualified students get in and which don’t.</p>