I had a 2390 SAT and I was waitlisted

<p>Yeah, I’m used to rejection and acceptance. I’m a dancer and I’ve auditioned for roles since I’ve been 3 years old. I’m used to rejection. And I also embrace getting great roles. I’m thankful for that experience because I don’t view this whole process has validating me. I’ve been used to it from a young age. Sometimes I get a role because I’m the best person for it. Other times I get it because I’m the right size to fit an existing costume. Other times I don’t get any role. </p>

<p>But, I’ve learned through the years to appreciate any roles I’ve received - no matter how big or small. Sometimes there doesn’t seem to be rhyme or reason - sometimes it literally is who will fit in the costume. Other times it’s who is the best student.</p>

<p>And I’ve also learned that dancers make the absolute best friends and best sportsman. They are the most supportive group of people in my life. Dancers rock!</p>

<p>It isn’t an OOS vs instate thing. It is SAT & diversity that get you in. The end</p>

<p>thanks girafee and thank you ksharonda! Your words are so inspiring :slight_smile: you would make a great motivational speaker :wink: really comforting, thank you again</p>

<p>I will call on monday and post here what they tell me</p>

<p>I think it’s a number of things.</p>

<p>As ISS, you have a great advantage. Since the requirement is 2/3 v. 1/3 the numbers are in your favor. As ISS, your chances are far greater than OSS. </p>

<p>Then, if you add diversity to the mix, well that just changes the equation.</p>

<p>I think it’s combination of many things.</p>

<p>But honestly, in the end…does it reallly matter? The only people who will take solace in this are those who were rejected or wait-listed.</p>

<p>dean j in her blog actually reveals that more OOS than IS students were accepted though ~24% OOS rate and ~47% IS rate</p>

<p>I know a guy who does interviews for Harvard. He says the admissions people get the decisions right 95% of the time, but they do make incorrect decisions sometimes. So for those of you out there who believe the admissions committee is a flawless institution that gets it right every time, reconsider that idea. They have the power to accept or reject, but their decision may not always be the best one. Understand that I am not blaming the folks in admissions in any way. I’m simply pointing out that they are prone to error, whether it is because they have incomplete information or because they have a slip in judgement. Nobody here can pronounce Stupefy’s admission decision as fair or unfair without more information. From what I can tell, Stupefy, you seem very deserving and I am sure you are smarter and better qualified than many people who attend UVa or any other other prestigious university.</p>

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<p>If you roll back through my posts on this message board, my tweets, and blog entries, you will see that admission takes over the life of an admission officer from November through May. This isn’t something we do for a few hours a day. This work is our lives.</p>

<p>When we read, we go into a tunnel. The rest of life doesn’t exist. Significant others, children, and friends of admission officers know that they take a back seat to this process for a quarter of the year. I’m supposed to be at a fundraiser right now for my significant other and here I am, sitting on College Confidential. :)</p>

<p>If you truly, truly think your application was flawless and some mistake was made, that’s one thing. However, I see virtually every student on College Confidential saying every single item in their application was perfect and I have to wonder if people are being honest with themselves. For example, everyone seems to think their essays are amazing, but the vast majority of essays are solid, but not great. Everyone says their recs were incredible. Almost all recs are positive, but the truly incredible ones aren’t as common as some seem to think.</p>

<p>If you think a big mistake was made, write to the Dean or give us a call.</p>

<p>Once again, we do not practice yield protection. We do not deny the top applicants.</p>

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Thanks for your post Dean J. So if we call, they will tell us?
I did think my application was very strong. I don’t consider anything “flawless”; I’m just concerned if a weakness in my app was something I can’t view (like SSR or recs) even though I expect strong recs from the teachers I asked.</p>

<p>@Stupefy, I am very sorry about my previous post. As I have seen in your other posts, it was based on an assumption and nothing more.</p>

<p>I don’t know that this is what happened with UVA but some schools display “Tufts Syndrome,” rejecting applicants with exceedingly high credentials who the school believes are using the school as a safety and are not really interested in attending.</p>

<p>last year a friend of mine, OOS from Florida, was accepted at UVA with an 1970 SAT … i don’t understand why Stupefy got waitlisted with an 2390… i think this is a non-sense!!!
{{{hugs}}}} to you Stufefy… what are your other choices?</p>

<p>ginger2, UVA also had a record number of applicants this year and, again, it’s not just about SATs. And even if it was, Dean J wrote a very interesting post about how perfection is sometimes boring, and if you don’t let your personality shine through in essays and ECs, it’s easy to be overlooked among 22k+ other applicants, most with equally impressive grades.</p>

<p>@quakerstate: dean j just said in BOLD that UVA doesn’t practice yield protection (aka tufts syndrome). I’ve said it several times in my posts but UVa is one of the best schools so obviously we attract the best applicants and it’s a pretty dang good deal for instate so they wouldnt judge who they /think/ is using UVA as a safety.</p>

<p>Dean J said so. Must be true.</p>

<p>Anybody ever see an “official” comparison of stats from the OOS accepted candidates vs the in-state applicants? I’d be the differences are interesting.</p>

<p>@quakerstate your sarcasm is unappreciated and insulting. Dean j goes out of her way, putting in extra hours that she is under no obligation to do in order to enlighten this process for UVA applicants. That is something that the majority of schools don’t bother to do. They just leave applicants in the dark about everything that is going on but dean j changes that. To assume that she’s lying when she has no reason to do so? That’s just uncalled for. Anyway, tensions are running high right now I understand that but some class would be nice all around. I think it’s time for me to step away from these threads…</p>

<p>And @aglages those stats are posted on the blog for everyone to see. Just google UVA blog and it’s the first thing that comes up. The state sets the 2:1 ratio and admissions acts to maintain it.</p>

<p>Dean J is not the only one to say so. Why should they protect their yield. Ivy schools have to realize the same thing when they have an applicant. Probability says that they are applying to at least 1 more Ivy and probably multiple. Do they try to protect their yield?</p>

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I’m still waiting decisions from 8 schools, all of which are more selective than UVA :confused: not a good sign. </p>

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…they don’t really have to. Harvard’s yield is close to 90 percent o.o</p>

<p>Dean J, I don’t know why you take the beating you do every year around this time. You and your compatriots do the best job that they can. Is it perfect? Is anyone perfect? No. If someone gets in they will be happy, if they don’t they will not be happy. It is simply human nature to compare yourself with others and wonder why they got in and you did not. </p>

<p>I’m worried that you will become disheartened with all the bashing that is directed at you and the admissions office every year at this time. I know you are passionate about what you do and care greatly about those students who do not get in but please make sure you step back and take the proper time to spend on yourself following the long hours that you have no doubt put in this fall. You are one of the few Admissions staff who actually tries to answer every question that comes up (sometimes the same one eight or nine times). Thanks for your hard work and please take a break from work and this board and take Cav dog on a long walk.</p>

<p>Stupefy, man you will survive the college process and go on to kick butt. There is nothing wrong with you; you just didn’t get in to UVA. When you are picking up the Nobel Peace Prize for quantum physics you will be able to gleefully out all of the schools that were insane enough to not accept you.</p>