<p>My ACT score is a 30, but I will be retaking in October with a hope of at least 33 or 34. Does it hurt my chances of getting in if I don't submit the SAT Reasoning to them at all? When I look at everyone's applications, they've all taken the SAT's, but only some took the ACT. Does Harvard, or any other Ivy, prefer the SAT Reasoning over the ACT?</p>
<p>Anyone? :P</p>
<p>What about your SAT II scores? You have to have three of those to have a complete Harvard application.</p>
<p>I will be taking 3 SAT II's in October. Math II (should be a breeze), Biology (I took AP Biology and scored 4), and U.S History (took AP History and scored 5). I will review and prepare more for them all, but I think/hope I'll be fine. </p>
<p>I will also take the Chemistry SAT II in December, along with another one I still haven't chosen (maybe Lit). I'm taking a Chemistry class at a community college, so that will prepare me for the Chemistry SAT II, hopefully. (College level chemistry, I already took high school Chem in 10th grade).</p>
<p>then you're fine</p>
<p>Okay, then you don't have to be nervous. Good luck.</p>
<p>What if my ACT in October does not improve much, or if it stays the same. Would my chances at Harvard and other Ivy Leagues be cut dramatically? As of now, my rank is 1 out of 160 something. GPA of 4.074/4, weighted.</p>
<p>well, what was your PSAT?</p>
<p>Is that even taken into account?
It was a 178 - not great.</p>
<p>Well, then, if your ACT is "higher", don't risk taking the SAT. If not, PRACTICE. It does wonders. (Also, SAT scores are usualy higher than PSAT, mine was by 70 points). PSAT scores aren't taken into account for admissions, but serve as a good predictor of SAT scores.</p>
<p>I actually already took the SAT. I just am deciding not to send it. My overall score was a 1910 (no prep). I won't send it though, because that will hurt my chances.</p>
<p>They will see it when you send in your SAT2 scores.</p>
<p>Are you serious? I thought I choose what scores I send in?</p>
<p>I think it's correct that College Board score reports show both SAT I and SAT II scores. I wonder if this is a backdoor reason why some colleges require SAT II scores (besides their known high validity in predicting college success).</p>
<p>"Harvard requires applicants to submit the results of either the SAT Resoning Test or the ACT with writing component."</p>
<p>So do they ignore the lower score?</p>
<p>Also, I took the SAT Reasoning last year. I'll be taking the SAT II's in October. Do they still send a report for both test dates even if I decided after the June exam not to send it anywhere?</p>
<p>O.k, so I guess now I can actually ask:
Does the SAT score actually reflect badly on me if the ACT makes up for it? Will my chances be slimmer? Do you recommend I take it again since they will see it, even though I am counting on my ACT's?</p>
<p>I don't do chances predictions, because I have found that I don't think the same way the admission officers think. They see a different file from what I see in chances threads. </p>
<p>Do the best you can on all the tests you are still taking, keep up your grades, and write really strong essays. With some preparation, you still have a chance. Without submitting a complete application, you have no chance. Good luck.</p>
<p>"Without submitting a complete application, you have no chance. Good luck."</p>
<p>The question I am wondering, is: Is getting a high score on the SAT Reasoning Test an important part of the 'complete application'? Or will an adequate ACT score make up for a lacking SAT?</p>
<p>Now I am thinking of retaking the SAT Reasoning test; if it's unnecessary though, then I would prefer not to take it.</p>
<p>My understanding is this: First, your application will definitely be complete if you submit ACT scores and not SAT reasoning scores (assuming everything else is complete!). Second, they will have access to your SAT reasoning scores when you submit your SAT II's, but if you indicate on your application that you are electing to use your ACT rather than your SAT reasoning, then it is your ACT scores and not your SAT reasoning scores that will be inputted into their data base for their use in evaluating you on their academic criteria. (It may even be that they transform your ACT scores into SAT reasoning equivalents, but I'm not sure).</p>
<p>Since your prefer the ACT to SAT, what I would suggest is to retake your ACT's (with adequate preparation because it really helps), and then retake the SAT reasoning (if there is time) only if you're not satisfied with your new ACT scores. The beauty of the ACT is that with this test, you can choose to submit only the test administrations that you want them to see.</p>
<p>Thank you FarmDad :)
I am retaking the ACT in October. If I don't get the expected score, I will not have a chance at retaking the SAT in time, so I have to go in there prepared.
Any idea on a score that'll keep me in the running? I know that a 30 won't be enough for serious consideration.</p>