I want your opinions...

<p>I am a rising senior who is planning to apply to HYP. But I am an "unhooked" applicant.</p>

<p>What do you guys think should be the minimum SAT score goal I should work for as an unhooked applicant?</p>

<p>at least a 2150+ IMHO</p>

<p>probably a 2250+ to be competitive </p>

<p>2350+ to increase your chances </p>

<p>2400 to dramatically increase your chances</p>

<p>^^^Thanks...</p>

<p>No matter what Ivy League you apply to, just an SAT score isn't going to get you in. But the better SAT, the weaker the rest of the stuff can possibly be. I'd say you should shoot for minimum 2150 also. But your goal, if you're applying to HYP should be 2400 always.</p>

<p>Thank you Mallika...I know that SAT scores aren't everything, but they are a huge part...</p>

<p>Yes they are. And, no problem.</p>

<p>Mallika, not necessary. Sure, there is a slight emphasis on them. But it's just a test. There's so many other factors as well.</p>

<p>well i hope you're right.
sometimes i feel i make them a bigger deal in my head than they actually will be come admissions time. we'll see though.</p>

<p>will good SAT/gr.11/12 scores make up for bad gr.9/10 ones for these schools? </p>

<p>by good i mean 2300+, straight As in AP/IB courses
by bad i mean.... straight Cs</p>

<p>Not all the way, because your competition will probably have straight As in AP/IB scores without the C's. But it will certainly help. Common sense suggests that.</p>

<p>A fair number of top schools don't even consider freshman grades (Princeton and Stanford I believe).</p>

<p>You guys refer to the SAT as "just a test," but isn't it a bigger deal than that?</p>

<p>Currently, I have a 1940 SAT...you guys can't tell me that score is going to play a minimal part in acceptance to an ivy league school. </p>

<p>Last month it was a huge deal that a URM got into Stanford with a 1700...So if the SAT isn't such a big deal, then why all the fuss about the 1700 not being good enough?</p>

<p>ivyleaguewannabe: Of course it's not just a normal test you take for school. It matters for admission. The point is that you shouldn't obsess over the SAT, because although at many schools it is an important (or very important) factor in admission, it's just one thing they look at.</p>

<p>I don't see why there was such a fuss. Probably because they overlooked Stanford's strong belief in affirmative action. You have to look at the SAT scores from the context of the student's environment. I mean, you can't expect someone from a poor background who was also a URM whose parents or siblings never attended school past high school, to have as good an SAT score as someone in private school whose parents both went to the Ivy League. The SAT isn't really an even playing field. And about the people who say that a 1700 is required to even have a chance, now you know that </p>

<ol>
<li>They're wrong and </li>
<li>They're not admissions specialists.</li>
</ol>

<p>First and foremost, the SAT is a intelligence test (albeit a poorly made one). A 1700 on the SAT signifies that the applicant is far below the average intelligence level (in terms of SAT) at Stanford, thus, everyone made a big deal out of it.</p>

<p>azngod1992, do you actually think that colleges still look at SAT scores as a measure of intelligence? You've gotta be kidding me.</p>

<p>SAT is a POORLY DESIGNED test that is meant to measure intelligence/readiness for college (at least last time I checked O_O )</p>

<p>I believe it provides colleges with a way to measure intelligence outside of school grades. Some schools may grade inflate/deflate GPAs and thus GPA is not always an accurate reflection of someone's intelligence. The SAT is independent of grades and GPA and provides a STANDARDIZED way to test intelligence. </p>

<p>Thus, the SAT is a POORLY DESIGNED test meant to test (at least in a fasion) intelligence.</p>

<p>What does it matter what score people think is needed for HYP? Just do the best you can and if you think you have a shot at HYP, then apply. If not, don't apply.</p>

<p>^^You make it seem so easy!</p>

<p>lol, HYP isn't everything.
But gl tho..</p>

<p>actually i don't think admission officers see much difference between between anything above 2300 and 2400. Although there may be that one second "wow" factor it isn't going to be the determining aspect of your application</p>