<p>Tim, I dont know you but I am right there in your scenario. I got credentials like they wouldnt believe and have loved ND since I can remember. Check this:</p>
<p>Rejected Notre Dame
Rejected Princeton
Waitlist YALE
Waitlist Stanford
Waitlist Northwestern
Accepted DUKE
Accepted PENN</p>
<p>Veryyyyy interesting ha...but its all good in the hood...but yes im very sorry and i feel for you</p>
<p>Tim, were all real sorry that it didn't work out, but you have to remember that God has a plan for us all and you never know what that plan is. Although it may seem like this doesn't make sense now, in hindsight you will see why things went the way they did. Try to use this to work even harder to apply later on and don't give up. We all know how badly you wanted this and you will be in our thoughts and prayers. </p>
<p>P.S. Try to look on the bright side and look at all the great institutions that you were admitted to</p>
<p>Thank you so much for all of these posts.</p>
<p>I have sent most of you PMs.</p>
<p>I have so many great options for next year, and even though Notre Dame isn't one of them, I will do fine somewhere else.</p>
<p>Im speechless right now, thank you guys so much.</p>
<p>Hey man, I am sorry to hear about it.</p>
<p>I have to agree with everyone here, the way you are still so enthusiastic about the school even now is a testament to your character and maturity. Like everyone has said, you have some amazing options next year, and I think the admissions office has made a mistake in not accepting you if so many other great schools accepted you. </p>
<p>I, like many others on this board, were beginning to imagine going to school with you next fall, and becoming good friends. If you do decide to transfer, it would be an hour to meet someone who has shown such passion for ND and become friends :). I hope to still keep in touch.</p>
<p>Tim... I'm so sorry to hear that. I can't imagine what you must be going through. But it sounds to me like you're going to make it one way or another... with that determination, you can do anything. I wish you the best of luck and I'll be praying that you can call yourself a Notre Dame student in the near future.</p>
<p>No fair...</p>
<p>This has to be an April Fool's Joke. I don't think they could've rejected you.</p>
<p>But assuming that it isn't, words can't describe how terrible I feel for you. I know what I would be going through if I was in the same situation after loving ND for 18 years, and I would tell you I'm sorry, but I don't know how.</p>
<p>"ND better get used to seeing my application because this one wasn't the last."
That would have to be my favorite line of your post. Get in touch with transfer admissions ASAP (unless you find a new college which you were obviously meant for), and talk to irish68178. That video was awesome, and I'll be seeing you when we're sophomores.</p>
<p>P.S. Please, from the bottom of my heart, DON'T GO TO USC!</p>
<p>I'm still not over this, by the way, if anyone was wondering. Good luck man</p>
<p>Tim, I'm really sorry. I'm a freshman at ND and I was on these boards at lot before I came here. I've been reading your messages for a while and I know how much you wanted to get in. What makes me so angry is that I know a current senior at my former high school that had stats nothing like yours, and he got in because his parents, grandfather, and like 10 of his cousins went to ND. You got into a bunch of amazing schools, and it makes me sick that ND could not make a spot for you when they could make a spot for this kid, who besides being unqualified, is a total jerk to everyone he considers "below" him. Just my two cents. It just makes me really, really angry at ND.</p>
<p>Check out this topic under the "Regular decisions" thread ^^^</p>
<p>I have been getting multiple messages from people wanting to send in emails to the office complaining about the decision.</p>
<p>Although I am deeply touched by the offer, Notre Dame isn't stupid. Notre Dame's admission system has changed recently. I have to agree with some other posters that "holistic" is probably not the right term to describe it. If you are not a legacy or a URM or a recruited athlete, you better have written a book because it is just that difficult. If you aren't in one of those three categories... you need to stand out... somehow. The committee determined that I did not stand out enough ( a decision I disagree with, but have to accept). My SAT score was a 2160. But I got a 760 in writing, a section that Notre Dame doesn't even look at. I received a 1400 in math and CR... a number that Notre Dame ( not me ) views as a bit low for my type of candidacy. So, before we start a revolution here, lets just remember that they made their decision for a reason, and I doubt they would go back on it.</p>
<p>Thank you everyone for you comments, and JCool... I will try my best</p>
<p>Hello Tim,</p>
<p>Thought these articles might make you feel somewhat better, knowing that in another year you would have been admitted, It is just the competitive climate this year's class faced.
Roger Dooley featured this on discussison page:</p>
<p>Forbes: Three Op-Ed Pieces on College Admissions </p>
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<p>Quote:
It wasn't until I worked in college admissions that I learned the monumental role of circumstance in what is often labeled a test of accomplishment.</p>
<ul>
<li>Joie Jager-Hyman<br></li>
</ul>
<p>Don't Take It Personally by Joie Jager-Hyman</p>
<p>There Are No Rules by Gwyeth T. Smith Jr.</p>
<p>No Pamphlets Required by Heather Struck</p>
<p>The CC parents are wonderful to plead your case to the admissions office!
I certainly hope this works!</p>
<p>But, if you do attend one of the other stellar schools you have to decide between, I wanted you to see this post from another thread- </p>
<p>Yesterday, 10:43 AM #7<br>
Hindoo
Member</p>
<p>Join Date: Mar 2006
Threads: 0
Posts: 576 Last year my NMF/scholar daughter, 4.73 w. GPA, with 35 ACT, 2290 SAT, 800 critical reading, Presidential Scholar candidate, 2-year newspaper editor, accomplished thespian at school and in community, with great references, essays, and volunteerism (YMCA u-6 soccer coach, Carnegie Literacy Center tutoring, etc.)--was turned down by Brown and wait-listed at Wash U. At the time, I felt blind-sided and furious. (She was far more philosophical about it.) A friend of hers with significantly lower grades, scores, and ECs, got in at Yale--as a first-generation college student. A great kid, with a hook that Yale seemed to want. ...</p>
<p>With a year to look back on this--and the fact that my daughter is now blissfully happy at Carleton--I have a somewhat better understanding of the process. It's a total crap-shoot, really. No matter how qualified a student is for a particular school, there are no guarantees--if he or she doesn't fit the needed demographic the school is looking for.</p>
<p>Tim--can't wait to meet you my junior year! good luck, kid!</p>
<p>Tim: here is my DH's boss' experience with his 2 sons, 2 years apart:</p>
<p>Son1: Val., 4.2 UW (!), 2190 SAT,private Catholic prep school, Capt football team, Lettered in Basketball and spring track, 1000+ volunteer hours at local hosptial in 3 years, parttime job (12 hrs/wk), band section leader and archivist. REJECTED at ND. Wound up at Holy Cross and loves it. Applying to medical school this year with a 3.95.</p>
<p>Son2, 2 years behind: 3.62 GPA, 1940 SAT, public high school. Lettered in Basketball and track, not captain. Band, (literally!) oboe player, pt job as busboy 18 hrs/wk. Accepted and loving it at ND, though his current gpa is not a fantastic 2.1 or so.</p>
<p>It's always a crap shoot, but I still think you deserved an acceptance! And, you may find out that the college where you wind up, is after all, the best place for you!</p>
<p>God bless and good luck in your future!</p>
<p>Tim -</p>
<p>You mentioned that you had a good relationship with your rep - have you contacted him about your situation so that he can advise you on which path to follow?</p>
<p>Also, the question of why you were rejected is a question that will never be answered to your liking - regardless of how many examples of previous students' stories that have been presented to you - I believe that you know, in your heart, that now is the time to look to your future and start on a path towards achieving your goal of attending Notre Dame next year. And as I have stated earlier, you seem to have the strength, determination and ultimate desire to get accepted into ND and I believe that your faith will allow you to successfully follow your dream and make it come true.</p>
<p>Tim,
Please take holycow's advice and talk to your regional couselor. I agree with your comments regarding the admissions at ND, but I do find that admissions counselors at ND are more personally involved than those at others schools.
Also I don't understand all the posts regarding see you in junior year, you can transfer after a year!</p>
<p>I'm tired of social engineering through the colleges. It should be merit-based. But I'm sure there could be a pretty spirited thread on that subject alone.</p>
<p>Tim - I didn't mean to write and complain, I have a good relationship with my rep too, I basically just thanked her for everything and then asked questions about the transfer program, and wrote how much I still will love Notre Dame and how it will always be a part of my life. I wasn't bitter in the email.</p>
<p>She sent me a very kind, enthusiastic, LONG email back. It actually made me feel a lot better. </p>
<p>So I agree wth toshima and heycow</p>
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<p>Right now I'm killing myself because I didn't apply to St. Mary's</p>
<p>but i feel a little better than I did on Monday</p>
<p>AC, if you don't mind me asking, where are you headed next year?</p>
<p>I'm still waiting for William and Mary. I'm deciding between St. Mikes in Vermont (honors), Loyola (honors), Providence, and potentially William and Mary (though not likely) </p>
<p>Unfortunately I didn't apply to as many reaches/matches as I meant to. I got into UMASS honors, and St. Anselm honors but don't really want to go there. </p>
<p>I did a bad job of applying, so now I have to go to one of my safeties. Which is so hard when I still think in my head I'll be going to Notre Dame</p>