IGETC for ENGINEERING MAJORS?

<p>My counselor told me that for engineering major, you dont have to fulfill IGETC and they may not accept it. Also some of my friends who transferred to UCSD told me that its gona save you a lot of time if you finished IGETC at your CC.
My question is: what if i finished IGETC, would they accept it? so i dont need to take no more GE classes after transfer?
Also if you tagged UCSD, do you have to get the IGETC certificates in order for you to fullfill TAG agreement?</p>

<p>I didn’t do IGETC when I applied 'cause I’d be missing 4 classes even after spring. Focused on getting my prereqs done for some schools instead. There’s a big possibility I’m going to SD though so I registered to finish those over the summer.</p>

<p>I’m pretty sure they won’t be making me repeat my GEs just because I didn’t finish them after spring. I know a couple of people who got accepted to Cal and still did cc over the summer to knock down some GEs before transferring. As for the certificates, I’m not sure but you could email SD just in case. Is there a reason why you won’t be able to obtain the certificate?</p>

<p>@sunnyseas
plz dont judge me on this cuz if im going to obtain certificate, im gona need to take more than 4 classes in summer, which is a big load for such a short-term session. Im thinking of finishing as many as possible, but may not finish all of them</p>

<p>'Course not! I guess you will have to take a couple down at SD. But try to take classes in the summer if you can to get some out of the way. :)</p>

<p>This is the big divide.</p>

<p>If you’re going to UCSD: IGETC helps you more because it’s required for transfer admission guarantee and a tag student with IGETC will be applied before you, even if you have better pre-reqs and he doesn’t. (Like me).</p>

<p>At UCLA, Berkeley however, pre-reqs are king and IGETC doesn’t get you anywhere. </p>

<p>So here’s the thing, UCSD admitted me as an engineering major even though I’ll only have Calc 2, Physics, C++ and Gen Chem 1 done before going. (Not even half of my pre-reqs) I got in on the FIRST batch.</p>

<p>But UCLA and Berkeley probably rejected me. (Haven’t heard back from Berkeley yet, didn’t apply to LA) </p>

<p>So it all depends on where you’re going, but if I had to prioritize, IGETC and TAG would be #1 and any pre-reqs you can squeeze in are #2. It’s possible to get SOME pre-reqs done WHILE you do IGETC. (Chemistry and Physics count as a physical science, Calculus counts as math requirement and you need writing) My friend took Physics Mechanics to fill her Physical science requirement instead of taking chemistry.</p>

<p>That’s all I have to say. I got into Jacob’s and only had less than half of pre-reqs done so take it for what it’s worth.</p>

<p>IGETC is not even a factor for consideration for UCLA & Berkeley.</p>

<p>I finished it all (literally): IGETC, CSU Certification, AS Engineering this Spring, and all prereqs done… needed to stay 3 years at my CC though (which included two summers). Haven’t heard from UCSD, UCSB, or UCI yet (but I did rack up a couple of C’s unfortunately). </p>

<p>But like stated above if you wanna get into UCSD finish the IGETC before your prereqs and TAG in. UCSB wants prereqs and IGETC done… UCLA and Cal couldn’t care less about it…</p>

<p>omg where is EmpathyInAnarchy when you need him??</p>

<p>he would add great insights into this thread :(</p>

<p>Yeah, where the heck is Empathy? He’d have ended this thread in one post.</p>

<p>@essenar you only had one physics class done and they accepted you into engineering? What is your gpa? I havn’t heard back yet and I’m only missing one prereq and have a 3.5!</p>

<p>Thanks, jamesinho, I merely <em>attempt</em> to replicate your level of concision.</p>

<p>@andyhb85: It’s worth noting that the batch you get in on is COMPLETELY RANDOM. For the people who gush “OMG I got in on first batch!”, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re excellent, it just means their number came up when admissions generated the batch.</p>

<p>@Essenar: I’m impressed that they let you into an impacted major like Bioengineering without taking Chem 200/201. Also, did you only finish 1st sem. Physics 195? IIRC you are only in Calc 1, which is a prereq for Mechanics (1st sem. physics) at Mesa. Without the prereqs I’m guessing your GPA must be very good.</p>

<p>@Empathy: I hadn’t seen you post in awhile (I may have just not read the right threads). I thought you’d gone and ditched us for greener pastures.</p>

<p>@james No, I was without internet. Although, the pastures are green; I’m trying to post less. </p>

<p>Unless there is a really compelling science/eng. thread that can’t be met by the likes of you or SFWarrior, I’m going to stick to lurking. I feel much less responsible this way. :)</p>

<p>Everyone that has posted answers so far is correct.</p>

<p>I will have Calculus 3, Diffy Qs, Java, and Physics 2 done with semester, full IGETC completion and TAG to UCSD, with a 3.75 GPA as of FALL 2009. For computer engineering at UCSD i will only be missing 3 pre-reqs, Physics 3, Linear Algebra and Java 2 (which my school does not offer). I will probably get accepted but I am still pending where as my buddy in my D.E. class got accpeted with pretty much the same stats as mine.</p>

<p>For UCLA, my first choice, I have no clue if i will be accepted. I am missing gen chem 1, linear algebra and physics 3. For Computer Science and Engineering major my school does not have any programming class that articulates with UCLA’s C++. Hopefully they will look and see my grades vs. my completion of GE and as much pre reqs as possible in 2 years. Plus the fact that I have worked in IT for the past 3 semesters…</p>

<p>FOr Engineering major, IGETC is unnecessary, i had several frd transfer to Berkekely without the IGETC certified, so just foucxing ur major pre and u will be fine</p>

<p>If you plan your schedule right, you can do it all. I completed all the prerequisites for UCLA/Berkeley except for one “recommended” class that isn’t offered at my community college. I also completed IGETC. I am doing Electrical Engineering. I was able to do all this in 2 years, and I still maintained a 4.0.</p>

<p>When I talked to an admissions representative from UCLA she said their main focus is prerequisites. The school of engineering does not accept IGETC, but that doesn’t mean it won’t get you out of a bunch of general education requirements you need to graduate. The more prereqs you have done, the lower the gpa they will accept you with. If you want to go to UCLA or Berkeley take all the prerequisites for your major that you can. What i did was take math/sciences during the semesters and as many GE’s as possible for IGETC during the summer/winter sessions. If you’re committed you can easily get it all done.</p>

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<p>Not only will I only have one physics done, but it won’t be in spring either. I’m in Calculus 1 right now and I’m taking Physics 2A in the summer. (195 at Mesa) They accepted me to Engineering with that as my reported classes. In the summer I’m taking Calculus 2, Physics 1 and C++. </p>

<p>My GPA is a 3.84 and I was IGETC/TAG done. Bioengineering is impacted so they had no reason to let me into it. Even with TAG, I would’ve got in but I assumed they were going to throw me in Chemical Engineering. They let me into my impacted major so I’m happy. </p>

<p>Maybe my essay? It was really good, probably a 10/10. No EC’s either. Just TAG, IGETC, 3.84, Calculus 1/2, Physics and C++.</p>

<p>BUT! I have a strong feeling Berkeley will reject me cold as day. Probably Davis too. In fact, SD is the only UC to admit me so far. </p>

<p>The thing is, it depends on the school. If it’s SD, IGETC is king and Pre-req’s fall by the way side. Here’s why:

  1. Even if you get 100% of your pre-req’s done and no IGETC, IGETC applicants will get admitted ahead of you because they have TAG.
  2. If you get 100% of pre-req’s done and IGETC, you’re tagged, but what is your GPA? I’m sure you’ll get in regardless.
  3. If you IGETC/TAG and don’t finish pre-req’s, you’re still in, as long as it’s not impacted. And even if it’s impacted, you still get reviewed before regular transfers.</p>

<p>This is how I imagine it went down for me-</p>

<p>Admissions department at UCSD only had X amount of spots in Bioengineering to give out. They started with the top pool of applicants. TAG/IGETC, San Diego resident, Pre-req’s done and let those students in. After that, they had (X-X0) amount of spots left. </p>

<p>At X1 is where I got my spot, because I was #2 on the pool list- TAG/IGETC, San Diego resident, some pre-req’s done. </p>

<p>After that, they had (X-X1) spots left. That’s where I’d imagine IGETC/TAG, non San Diego residents with all pre-req’s come in. After that, IGETC/TAG non SD residents, with none or only some pre-req’s. After that, SD residents no IGETC/TAG with pre-req’s. </p>

<p>So what I’m pointing out is, that to me, I would imagine the UC schools that participate in TAG have very distinct layers of admissions.</p>

<p>My advice is this-
If you’re going to try to TAG into a school, get IGETC done. This is crucial. It’s 100% requirement at ALL TAG participating schools. </p>

<p>If you’re going to try to TAG into Davis or Irvine, get IGETC done and squeeze in pre-req’s. </p>

<p>It’s not hard:
Chemistry fills in the physical science requirement. Biology 210A ( for bioengineering) fills in the life science. Any of your maths fill in the quantitative requirement. At LEAST get Calculus and physics done. That’s only 9 units and you can fit in one GE (Preferably English) on top of that. If you take two classes every summer, plus one GE a semester, you can at least have 8 GE’s done, plus calculus, maybe chem 1 & 2 and physics. (because you need Calc 1 to get to Physics, so you can take Chem with Calc 1 and with Linear Alg or Diff E after you finish physics)</p>

<p>Briefly, completing the IGETC classes, ALL of them is extremely important for having a ‘short stay’ at UCSD.
They have six colleges there (for the Liberal Arts, etc.) and each college has their OWN requirements, and etc. If you have any holes, AT ALL, expressed in the letter of reciprocity, then the whole IGETC is ignored, and you must meet the accepting College’s requirements -ALL of them. Also, these colleges vary GREATLY. It apparently doesn’t matter much to starting Freshman there, but for Transfers (Jr.s) it can be HELL.<br>
For Jacob’s School of Engineering, avoid SIXTH at all costs, there are two, that are OK. One has there office in the Engineering building. Jacob’s loves to get qualified transfers, but they rarely do. Facility with Calculus is a must-have. Also, since the Colleges follow the IGETC thing EVEN for inter-UC transfers, they end-up getting NO transfers from other UC’s (at Jacob’s)…afterall, WHY would another UC make any effort to look-into, or support classed to fulfill an IGETC?? Only Community Colleges jump on this. For instance at Jacob’s there have been NO successful transfers from UCB in the past six years; Not because of Jacob’s, but because of the Colleges uniform treatment of ALL transfers.</p>