Imperial College London Vs University of Michigan. Where do I go ? =S

<p>So why are you attending Cornell? You should be at MIT or Stanford.</p>

<p>oh you’re so funny</p>

<p>1) I don’t live in HK anymore
2) Cornell haters can kill themselves</p>

<p>Im not saying that gatech is bad (I applied there 2), it’s just that it’s comparatively less famous in HK</p>

<p>Well I agree with one thing that you said. I am funny. :-)</p>

<p>“You clearly have very little grasp of American and what we have and will continue to accomplish. ”</p>

<p>Accomplish? Like what? Stem cells? High speed rail? Airplane? Cars?
The leader of stem cells is China. High speed rail, China. Airplane, Airbus. Cars, German + Japanese, China projected to overtake them in 5 years, according to the Detroit Exhibition. What does America leads in? Bible chorus? Pastors? Yeah, that’s where you want to put an engineer right? Ridiculous.
And the whole learned world knows that American companies ship jobs overseas because Americans are not qualified. Please, go to China, go to Japan, go to South Korea, go to Singapore, go to Germany, go to Spain, go to France, and see for yourself who’s leading and who will lead the world.
Obama put it this way and was right “The country that leads in green technology will lead the world.” Yes, and China just devoted a 50% greenhouse emissions cut in 10 years. America, 17%(and still pending in the Senate, not likely to pass anyway, with the admission of Scott Brown), so who’s leading the world?
Oh, I forgot! You’re the greatest people on earth!</p>

<h2>And the whole learned world knows that American companies ship jobs overseas because Americans are not qualified.</h2>

<p>I thought the out sourcing of jobs is due to the low wages they pay the foreign workers, not the lack of qualification of Americans. Might be wrong.</p>

<p>mathdumb’s 50+ posts summarized:</p>

<p>“Evil, f83king Americans!”</p>

<p>mathdumb wrote:</p>

<h2>"“OP, when you choose Michigan engineering, you are devoting your career to a … religious … land.”</h2>

<p>You realize OP is a devout Muslim, do you not mathdumb? There is no point in disparaging religion or religious people when discussing the merits of colleges.</p>

<p>Oh, one more thing mathdumb – it was these backward, lazy, religious, americans who took up arms against an imperialist Japan some seventy years ago. And as a byproduct, saved Manchuria and all of China from servitude to Japan.</p>

<p>How quickly you forget the sacrifices made from which China has benefitted.</p>

<p>For contributions to technology, USA has done more than the whole world combined.
Silicon Valley has done more than the rest of USA combined.</p>

<p>Michigan</p>

<p>10 char.</p>

<p>“more than the whole world combined”
oh gawd typical americans lmao</p>

<p>mathdumb, you do have a serious problem in reading comprehension. I say it’s serious because this isn’t the first time you’ve committed the same error. </p>

<p>I said, I, myself, cannot measure academic quality. I did not say academic quality/standards cannot be measured. Those are two different things in meaning. Additionally, you’re obviously an American hater, and that has blinded you from thinking objectively. I am not American, but when it comes to higher education and academic research, I’d give that to American institutions. They’ve got the horde of Nobel Price awards. China does not even come 1/5 of what they’ve got. So, please stop talking nonsense and get real. I will not study in a Chinese university if I have offers from an American university. I bet 99% of the world’s population would do the same. </p>

<p>Would you go for Tsinghua math over Michigan math?</p>

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<p>Are you serious? Many people in HK would “break an arm”, maybe even, “kill people” to get an American visa, let alone graduate from a respectable American institution like Georgia Tech. Get real, dude! Get real!</p>

<p>“kill people”?
wow, nei ho ho siu…
10 years ago? maybe, now? i don’t think so</p>

<p>figure of speech…</p>

<p>lol</p>

<p>mathdumb, you’re not going to get anywhere ranting about stupid Americans on a forum about US colleges where the majority of the people who post are Americans. You’re just going to make yourself into a caricature. How do you know that advanced analytic geometry is a subject that “truly builds the IQ and creative thinking”? Have you read studies on this? I think the very core of your argument isn’t backed up by facts but only personal opinion. To tell people who disagree with you to “look and tour” Asian universities in itself isn’t very convincing. </p>

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<p>You clearly have no idea what America is like if you think the only thing America “leads” in is religion. Many times in this thread, you’ve asked other users to go to Asia to see for themselves. Have you been to the US?</p>

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<p>The reason for outsourcing isn’t because people in other countries do it better. It’s because people there will do it for much cheaper.</p>

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<p>Now you’re going to use a single quote by Obama, who was obviously generalizing, for your argument as to which countries will “lead the world”?</p>

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<p>I don’t know about the other countries but I am a citizen of China and is a permanent resident of Singapore. </p>

<p>In China, the government disallows the administration of SAT (except in Hong Kong and Macau) in an effort to prevent/discourage individuals from applying to US universities. </p>

<p>In Singapore, the government spends large sums every year to send some of our best and brightest overseas with bonded scholarships to US universities. These students - not students from our local universities - make up the majority of the Administrative Service (the top echelons of the civil service in Singapore).</p>

<p>RML, you won’t get anywhere nitpicking my reading comprehension, referring to popular myths and stereotypes, and generalizing about Asians. In fact, I think I already have an ally, waitatshu, who’s picked up some of your BS and is getting right to the point. If you want to measure how much an Asian will “break an arm” or “kill someone” to go to an American college, you listen to a Hong Kong student, and waitatshu has already proven that you’re wrong. There’s no point constantly trying to enforce and impose more and more popular beliefs, for example that Asians will do whatever to go to US, that’s completely groundless coming from a British guy. At any rate, waitatshu should be the one who informs us what people think, not you. Also, don’t even get me started on the Nobel price here, don’t, help yourself by not going there, you won’t get away with it… </p>

<p>To some guy who picked up my “religion” statement: I don’t even want to argue with you, because you’re trying to defeat me by getting personal here. We all know that my “religion” statement was firstly not directed at OP, and secondly not directed at Muslims. You have employed the same cheap form of rhetoric that had exploited the personal feelings of religious Americans to ban scientific research for years. Perhaps you yourself serve as the best argument against an engineer staying in the US.</p>

<p>“RML, you won’t get anywhere nitpicking my reading comprehension, referring to popular myths and stereotypes, and generalizing about Asians.”</p>

<p>Perfect example of “turnspeak.”</p>

<p>mathdumb, did I not tell you that I’ve got many friends from HK, and that many of them would “break an arm” just to get into a top American university? Those friends of mine from HK are not even the average HK types. They’re some of the most ambitious and highly-educated type in HK. They’re my contacts I’ve got since my undergraduate days at Cambridge. And I think you’re very well aware that those who are admitted to Cambridge from HK are not just the average HK people. So spare me. </p>

<p>The top 3 HK unis (U of HK, HKUST and Chinese U of HK) are really great academic institutions. There is no question about them being great, great universities. But reality check my friend. Would they measure up in prestige to Michigan? Would you go for U of HK math over Michigan math, if money isn’t an issue for you? </p>

<p>Tsinghua is amazing too. But would you go for Tsinghua math over Michigan math?</p>

<p>Please answer my question.</p>