In State vs Out of State

<p>I know that the Out Of State acceptance rate is around 18%, but I'm just curious as to exactly how easy it is to get in if you're in-state. I live in Durham and would love to go to UNC but don't know if I have the grades...what does the average accepted in-stater look like?</p>

<p>Caroline90: I'm not a student, so a current in-state student or your teachers/gc at your school might be able to better help you here. </p>

<p>Nevertheless, it is true that the range of in-state students is obviously broader than that of out-of-state students. That said, if you look at this link from the freshman class of 2005, you will see--just looking at the SAT score comparison alone, that from 1300 (old SAT) and above, there are plenty of top students from in-state. <a href="http://www.ais.unc.edu/ir/factbook/fb2005-2006/student/fb05tbl11.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ais.unc.edu/ir/factbook/fb2005-2006/student/fb05tbl11.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Of course, I'm sure that UNC looks at more than just SAT scores. They look at how well you write; the rigor of your high school course load and how well you did in those courses, etc. I'm sure they factor in other issues as well, in addition to academics-- serious community involvement, for instance, though I don't know how much this is weighed.</p>

<p>UNC-CH is the flagship school of the UNC system, though. Each year, more and more top in-state students apply and ultimately choose to go there. So it is very competitive, even for in-state students. Again, I think your guidance counsellor and/or teachers could tell you more.</p>

<p>If you don't get into UNC-CH, though, there are 15 other campuses in the UNC system. Each of the other schools within the system is also excellent, and also often have very specific strengths that you might not find at Chapel Hill (i.e., engineering at NC State; a strong marine science program at UNC-Wilmington; Western Carolina just hired Terrance Mann for their theatre department--no small feat; I just returned from Appalachian where I was very impressed with their photography/technology program. UNC has an excellent creative writing program, though I think you can only get a minor in it. UNC-Greensboro also has an excellent creative writing program as well, but I <em>think</em> you can major in it. East Carolina has a very impressive BFA/MFA program in photography; they also have an outstanding musical theatre department. These are just some examples. So, you should also look at your own specific interests, too, and which school would best serve those interests. </p>

<p>That's just my take. Hope it helps. All the best! Again, my advice would be to challenge yourself in your classes, and try to do well in them--no matter where you end up applying.</p>

<p>do you think that all the out of state acceptances under a 1400 SAT are URMs and Athletes?</p>

<p>o and these are not the acceptance rates but the people that decided to come....i see</p>

<p><a href="http://www.admissions.unc.edu/academics/factsandfigures.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.unc.edu/academics/factsandfigures.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>knock about .3 GPA points off there and you've got your in state GPA. Knock 50 points off the SAT and you've got your in state SAT.</p>

<p>Hi, I'm an out-state (Long Island, NY) applicant with pretty strong stats (other choices: Georgetown, BC, yale, Northwestern, duke, UVa, NYU)... if i were in-state, i would say that i had quite a good chance of being accepted, but i feel like it's such a crapshoot from out of state. I was invited to apply for the Thomas Wolfe Scholarship and I have pursued, so does that perhaps bode well for being admitted? even if i don't get the scholarship, i feel like they must like me a little to recognize me as a strong writer and send me that letter telling me to apply for the TWS. so yeah, i don't know. any thoughts?</p>

<p>does this include athletes?</p>

<p>thatgirl - I think that DOES bode well for you. I understand UNC-CH looks very closely at the writing skills of their oos applicants. My oos d rec'd a lot of attention after submitting her essays and she ended up with a likely letter and acceptance (and scholarship money). (And yes, she is now a freshman at UNC-CH.)</p>

<p>I wish you the best of luck!</p>