Is a 2100 really that bad?

<p>I’m not quite sure I get you guys.</p>

<p>All around the board, people are almost embarrased of their 2100 SAT scores, but do you guys realize that the average SAT score at UPenn is almost exactly the same? For the class of 2004-2005, the average old SAT score was around 1410. Extrapolate that to the new scale (not perfect, I know, but good enough) and it is about a 2100 or so.</p>

<p>Put it this way: everyone from the 1st percentile to the 49th percentile got accepted, so being in the 50th is not too bad.</p>

<p>Well if you don't have any hooks, 2100 is on the low side for Penn acceptees. Cuz think about it, the avg score is lowered by people with major hooks such as athletics, important legacies, etc.</p>

<p>True...</p>

<p>So much for having hope...lol.</p>

<p>Really now, people.. legacies, athletes, URMs etc. do not make up such a large part of the population that you have to be talking about how they change admissions constantly. I read an article somewhere that if they totally took out special consideration for URMs everyone else's admission rate would go up by .5%--not much at all! I'd imagine that legacies, and especially athletes are similar :) A 2100 is not bad if you write strong essays and have a strong application otherwise. It definitely doesn't keep you out of the running.</p>

<p>Average was almost 1440, so we are really looking at 2150 as the range. With such a narrow band 2100 is already falling at about 40th percentile. Then take out all the hooked individuals as was previously mentioned and you are looking at a much lower number.</p>

<p>Another equally depressing way of looking at it is acceptance rate by SAT score. 24% were admitted with verbal scores of 700-740 and 22% were admitted with comparable math scores. Take out the hooked individuals and realistically that rate is somewhere around 15%, with a boost to around 25% to early applicants and a slash against RD applicants to around 10%.</p>

<p>The Ivies are getting so competitive there is not much room for error. But don't lose hope...tests aren't everything - they just steepen the slope.</p>

<p>I'm a URM with a 2120. Would that be like a "regular" applicant with a 2200? </p>

<p>Sorry for the personal question, but the nervousness just kicked in for me.</p>

<p>if you did well on the reading and math sections, then the writing section may not matter that much... if you did poorly on the math/reading and good on the writing, then i dont know... good luck!</p>

<p>I really hate the SAT's.</p>

<p>A lot of the athletes and other "hooked" applicants have SATs of 1400 old scale or better. The hook just helps give them an edge over applicants with similar academic statistics.</p>

<p>that includes athletes and urms</p>

<p>so for a white kid with no large hook...its not the average sat score</p>

<p>In some of my college admissions books, the kind that gives the inside scoop on the whole process, it says that for Ivy level schools and unhooked applicants - they should really be on the upper end of that 25-75% range to have realistic chances, especially RD. The dean of admissions says that testing is weighted 40% of the application(that includes SAT, SAT II and transcript). There's alot to compensate for if you don't have the stats. He gave that quote that testing is worth "not as much as we think, but more than we probably hope." Of course there are all kinds of circumstances and hooks, like geography, special talents, etc. but it's good to have a realistic view of this whole thing.</p>

<p>i didn't even BREAK 2100.
after reading all of your stats, i feel inferior. and i applied ED.
oh well i guess its too late now.</p>

<p>and would you consider being a founder of a community program and editor of school magazine and being an EMT hooks?</p>

<p>look, what can i say, do the best you can and good luck? if we told you 2100 isnt good enough, would you still have applied?? (yes) so dont worry about it. you did the best you could and we'll see if penn thinks so. also, 2100 was always the level you wanted in my book (i guess after coming to this site i think i moved it up to like a 2250) still, its not like you can change it. you did your best. good luck.</p>

<p>Yeah, I'm not even close to 2100.....I probably should have taken the SATs more than once.....I guess I know why my decision will be.</p>

<p>i have 2110. haha. just over the mark... but still not good enough. i'm hoping that i have some hooks somewhere in there.</p>

<p>Yes.</p>

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<p>2180... 1510 m+v here, but the thing is, when i first took the sat's i only wanted a 2100, that was my goal since i equated that to like a 1430 slightly adjusted for the longer test... but afterwards i felt it was low... thank you cc</p>

<p>There is hope. There are matriculants (without the obvious hooks) at HYP with similar SAT I scores. If you have something they're looking for, they'll take you.</p>