<p>Also, it is longstanding admissions policy at Cornell that people who play the saxophone, have wanted to play a saxophone, or otherwise appreciate anything to do with saxophones, have their personal information sold on the internet in addition to being denied admission.</p>
<p>what? lol 10char</p>
<p>Dude, it's totally true.</p>
<p>The Undergraduate Admissions building is at 410 Thurston Avenue.</p>
<p>On top of that building is a sniper told to kill anyone within one mile (he's using .50 BMG) carrying a saxophone.</p>
<p>Cornell takes its regulations seriously.</p>
<p>^It's true...happened to my friend.</p>
<p>One minute he was laughing, carrying his saxophone...the next...dead. -sniffle-</p>
<p>Yeah....Once there was a marching band during graduation festivities, and they were gallivanting around the Appel commons......Cornell's admins had the guy set up a pair of anti aircraft weapons on top of the NorthStar.....He cut about 200 people down.</p>
<p>good thing im a percussionist</p>
<p>I hear that they placed land mines around the outside of 410 thurston so NO ONE disturbs the eternal rest of those they call [whispers] adcoms</p>
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<p>The threads are obviously connected. "Is Cornell looked down upon" and "which Ivy is the worst?" ? How does the second not complement the first, especially when the answer almost everyone gives is "Cornell"? It patently answers the question of the first thread: Is Cornell looked down upon? Clearly.</p>
<p>^in Cornell's defense, more than 2/3s of the posters posed statements that were either farcical, or berated the OP for starting such a topic. Most of the reasonable people thought the thread was stupid, but yes, some people did say Cornell and brown. And yes, FB lalaland is an idiot and does not believe in either empirical evidence, or that he/she could have faulty reasoning.</p>
<p>This subject is addressed every year. Students eventually learn that, as a general matter, this type of question is only important to high schoolers and their parents who devour US News and World Report ratings. Once in college, you will learn that, commonly, to the outside world (that is, graduate schools and employers), all ivy league schools are considered in very high esteem, with HYP a small cut above the other ivys.</p>
<p>Easy: Yes.</p>
<p>my mom seems to think that "H, Y, and P are the best, and the rest of the ivies are all pretty equal. but cornell is definitely not the same as the rest of the ivy league."</p>
<p>granted, i like cornell and will probably apply(even if my mom doesn't approve). i just want to say that there are, in fact, people who think cornell is the worst ivy. though they mostly base it on selectivity.</p>
<p>^ I don't understand the concept of basing it on selectivity - does your mom think that way of U chicago, which has over a 30% acceptance rate? I mean, wouldn't you rather judge a college by the quality of teaching and education rather than percentage of people it lets in? it's illogical not to. </p>
<p>USNWR also publishes a list of 20 "Most selective" colleges Most</a> Selective Colleges - List of the 20 Most Selective Colleges Notice the colleges' selectivity is usually different from Academic rankings - MIT is ranked #10, but in terms of academics, it's much higher. There are also colleges ranked "most selective" that don't make it to the list of top 20 in academics - are you looking for the college with the best academics, or greater percentage of rejection letters?</p>
<p>This thread projects an image of negativity, which is not the predominant sentiment of this community. Cornell has much to be proud of, most alums I know are proud of their school and what it has done for them. Most people in this country look up to it, if anything. </p>
<p>Let people looking for targets to belittle go on the sub-forums of most all the other schools in this country that have acceptance rates greater than 18%, and start threads there titled "is your school looked down on by HYP?" Or whatever. And leave the Cornell community out of this pathetic little game. Meanwhile I suggest people here should focus on the nature of our university, which has so many positives in its own right.</p>
<p>And not participate further in this litte negative game going on here.</p>
<p>boy, doesn't that list of the 20 most selective colleges say it all. College of the Ozarks at number 6? No offense to the school, just surprising.</p>
<p>monydad and molly are right. Time to let the admissions rate go as a way of defining a school.</p>
<p>Makes no sense to me, the schools just have different outlooks. I think Cornell is attacked because we bother the other schools that we don't "receive" their criticism. All 7 other Ivy League schools do whatever they can to LOWER the amount of students they accept, while Cornell does everything we can to raise it. If we honestly cared about the opinions of the other Ivy League schools, we could simply decide to accept 3,000 students a year. With our 30,000 avg applications, that would be an acceptance rate of 10% or less, making us one of the most selective in the country. But we don't. We're not here to create yet another utopia of elitism, we're here to give amazing educations to as many people as we can.</p>
<p>Before I came to Cornell, I simply wanted them to be more selective. I wanted them to make it to the top 10 in US News - but I was a stupid high schooler. Now that I'm here, I see how great it is to have such a huge, diverse school. To not be the size of a high school - but to be a whole thriving community of individuals. We're happy with who we are - and that's the thing that bothers you haters. Well knock us all you want, but we won't budge. Frankly...screw you.</p>
<p>It's honestly not even other schools looking down on us, it's just a CC thing. Your employers or future grad/professional schools could care less about the difference between Dartmouth and Cornell or Duke vs. Northwestern. Top 15 or top 20 = prestigous There are 10 other things they'd look for before even beginning to split hairs between Penn and Cornell. And, honestly, college and post-college people could care less about where you went to college. I go to med school where more than 70% of the class attended a Top 20 college and none of us give each other a hard time about where we went to college. Heck, I don't even know (or care) where most of my classmates went to college. It just never comes up. I would be very surprised if you hear a negative word about Cornell at anytime in your life away from College Confidential. I certainly never have.</p>
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<p>It’s not really a CC thing Norcalguy. The majority of CC folks either have some degree of a positive opinion of Cornell, or little opinion at all due the school being out of their reach, or no opinion at all due to ignorance. The tiny minority who troll onto this board to disparage Cornell tend to be high school seniors who have delusions of uber-status related to their obsession to get into HYPS, or else they might be certain insecure transferees to Penn.</p>
<p>Most students who have reached their third year or beyond as an undergraduate in tier one colleges know better. Educated employers also know better. And postgraduate academics know better. Even most everyday citizens know better.</p>
<p>After all, a tremendous number of professors at Cornell have degrees from HYPS, in addition to many profs with degrees from other top 20 schools. They obviously think highly enough of the university in general, and their departments in particular to opt for Cornell. Why did Hans Bethe, Carl Sagan – or even Bill Nye – for that matter choose Cornell? Richard Feynman was a faculty member. Kurt Vonnegut graduated from Cornell … and the list goes on.</p>
<p>The few who try in vain to diminish Cornell University are either in a misguided and adolescent attempt to prop up there own academic insecurities, or they are engaged in a malicious and petty game of one-upmanship. If they were thoughtful at all about the matter they would quickly realize that Cornell is obviously an incredible and unique university. This is not to say that the school is perfect – no school is – it is however on balance clearly exemplary.</p>
<p>" Kurt Vonnegut graduated from Cornell "</p>
<p>No he didn't.</p>
<p>He beat the U to the punch by enrolling in the army after Pearl Harbor, before he perhaps may have been expelled. He was doing very poorly studying Biology and Chemistry, working all the while for the Daily Sun.</p>
<p>It's widely printed that he undertook grad study in anthropology at U Chicago after the war, but I can't find any source that says where he ultimately received his undergraduate degree from . But it wasn't Cornell.</p>
<p>Vonnegut never received an undergraduate degree. And he only received his Masters from Chicago 20 years after the fact when the school decided that Cat's Cradle warranted significant consideration to be a master's thesis.</p>
<p>I saw Vonnegut speak at a Cornell event in 2006. He was a consummate Cornellian.</p>