Is Cornell looked down upon by the other Ivies?

<p>"I think maybe because cornell is half public/half private?"</p>

<p>Cornell is all private.</p>

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You don't have a reason to be upset.

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<p>They have every single reason in the world to be upset with you, and I actually think upset is an understatement already.</p>

<p>I am quite sick of your attitude because you seem to harbor a sense of hatred toward Cornell. The way you communicate it (by posting that link to a thread where many people explicitly state that they think Cornell is the school that is looked down upon the most in the Ivy).</p>

<p>You should be thankful, that you were given the privilege to go to two of the best schools in the U.S. Yet you took that opportunity for granted. Your attitude sickens me.</p>

<p>I am glad you transferred out of Cornell.</p>

<p>What I find funny is that most of the people who look down upon Cornell will likely get rejected by their HYP choice, for one of two reasons. Either they aren't an academic fit(which doesn't mean they're not smart) for the school or the adcom will see through their elitist BS. Unfortunately, they will also miss out on great schools that better meet their goals and abilities because of their misguided, insecure and arrogant attitudes.</p>

<p>I actually have to agree with Muerteapablo on this. She has been very very tame in her last 10 or so posts (disregarding the post about cornell grads working fast food restaurants). I also think she brings a balance to the board by toning down our emerald colored/glossy eyed view of Cornell. You may not agree with her, but I do think she not only has a right to her views, but that they have some legitimacy as long as she stays away from straight up insults (like the fast food post). </p>

<p>But just dont talk bad about pennstate (jk) while she's lurking here and she seems to be ok :)</p>

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by posting that link to a thread where many people explicitly state that they think Cornell is the school that is looked down upon the most in the Ivy [sic]

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<p>I have no tolerance for your incompetence. What's the name of this thread?</p>

<p>I'll remind you:

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Is Cornell looked down upon by the other Ivies?

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<p>Naturally, that's a hard question to answer without a good sample size that has representatives from other Ivy League schools. So, I linked a thread that had discussed the issue from an open-ended standpoint, using a prompt that provided the least bias. Instead of asking, "is Cornell the most looked-down-upon Ivy?" it asked "which Ivy is looked down upon the most?". This allowed forum-goers to answer the question uninfluenced. Almost all of them listed Cornell. Harvard, Penn, Brown, and Columbia were each listed once; I think Brown may have been twice, actually.</p>

<p>In other words: my post was totally in line with the thread (it actually answered the thread pretty definitively, I think) and dispassionate. Whereas your response was inane and completely out of line. Go soak your head.</p>

<p>Actually muerteapablo, that link has nothing to do with the thread. Kudos to your critical thinking skills.</p>

<p>That thread forces individuals to pick one school in the Ivy League. (I am laughing my heads off right now.) </p>

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Go soak your head.

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<p>Heads...?</p>

<p>I don't get this Ivy League comparing thing...Cornell's a good school, let it be. It's not like it can LEAVE the Ivy League...I'm sure we would if we could...bunch of pretentious snobs.</p>

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I'm sure we would if we could...bunch of pretentious snobs.

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<p>Well said.</p>

<p>Geez, it's like this woman is on a personal vendetta to kill Cornell's reputation. Look, we don't care if a bunch of people dislike Cornell. Hell, how many people think Harvard and Yale are a bunch of snobby brats? (I applied there, so it's not like I'm trying to diss them, but it is true there's this stereotype about Ivy students). Yet, their students obviously don't care.</p>

<p>But I get the impression this woman spends more time on the Cornell boards than she does on the Penn boards.</p>

<p>Wait wait...the "elite" school muertapablo transferred to is...Penn? Haha...no wonder she's out to get us. Insecure people make themselves feel better by downing others.</p>

<p>Btw, thank you lalaland, I believe your comments were well said as well. Cornell power! Rawr! lol</p>

<p>I tihnk the question about most looked down on school in the Ivy League is unquestionably Brown. Look let's not discuss whether this is justified, but it's fact.</p>

<p>Take this for example. On a retarded show that I have to stop watching called "Greek" about greek life at a fictional university, the following exchange occurred last year:</p>

<p>"But my boyfriend is an Ivy Leaguer."
"Ehh, not really. He goes to Brown."</p>

<p>Brown, with its hippie, laid-back style, open curriclum and lowest Ivy US News ranking, is assuredly the most looked down on. I think Cornell and Brown are almsot always listed as the bottom two. IMHO, Ivy rank goes like this (this is tangentially related to the topic but whatever):</p>

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YP (tie)<br>
Columbia/Penn/Cornell (in order)<br>
Dartmouth/Brown (in order)</p>

<p>To paraphrase George Carlin, all of this "which school is better" nonsense sounds like a lot of prick waving.</p>

<p>It's almost like the majority of people are insecure, and so the majority of people that go to these top notch schools (while educated) are also likely to be insecure, and because they can't simply debate individual merit, resort to identifying with a collective that they can say unambiguously rocks balls.</p>

<p>Stop waving your pricks. The ivy league is a group of fine schools, and there have been many other very good schools mentioned in this thread.</p>

<p>Drawing lines and comparisons is useless...why?</p>

<p>Because none of you are the aggregate result of a student body's education....You're all individual people.</p>

<p>This is like "Oh, Black people are better athletes....neener neener..."</p>

<p>"Nuh uh!"</p>

<p>"Uh HUH"</p>

<p>"Well, white people have more money!"</p>

<p>"Well, asians are smarter"</p>

<p>"Nuh uh!"</p>

<p>"Uh, HUH!"</p>

<p>This debate of "My school is better than yours, LOSER"
is about as mature and probably even less statistically valid.</p>

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Because none of you are the aggregate result of a student body's education....You're all individual people.

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<p>Agreed, only individuals matter. But statistical averages are reality. The student body of Harvard is, on average, more intelligent than the student body of Penn State. So if one were to pick a random student from each, there's a much higher probablity that the Harvard random choice is smarter. But of course, averages don't apply to individuals.</p>

<p>wow, did we just agree on something on the cornell board?!?</p>

<p>unprecedented...</p>

<p>haha dontno I love how you brought up Greek :D why is Brown always bashed on tv? on gilmore girls too, after Rory got into Harvard, Princeton, and Yale (i know, such an unrealistic show - picked yale of all places, I guess since the show couldn't continue if she moved to NJ or MA), her grandpa was like, "I can't wait to tell ___ - his dolt of a grandson couldn't even get into Brown!" or something like that. And then there's the Brown-bashing on gossip girl lol...if anyone here actually watches that ridiculous show, which i'm embarassed to admit I do</p>

<p>I've heard more about Brown being the worst rather than Cornell.</p>

<p>I heard the admissions board at Brown now smokes about 2 bowls of weed before throwing darts at application, instead of just one.</p>

<p>There's really only so far you can take the alleged reputation of average students at a school...</p>

<p>I agree, the 'average' performing student at Penn State probably isn't as well educated as the 'average' performing student at Harvard. But unless we're entertaining a discussion about the merits of individual students (oh, also, how did we get their grades, lol), we have no business talking about the relative merit of the school.</p>

<p>ESPECIALLY not on the basis of some statistically representative student.</p>

<p>I mean, the average isn't necessarily the mode. That would assume some relatively standard distribution of intelligence/education, which I don't think is the case at schools as selective as the ivy league.</p>

<p>Cornell is obviously an amazing school. However, compared to other Ivies, it is considered easier to get into.</p>

<p>Easier to get into because there are seven undergraduate schools.</p>

<p>(Including dedicated Engineering and Architecture schools)</p>

<p>Saxophonegirl, with your somewhat lukewarm SATs you should really hope that your legacy status pulls you through in regular decision at Yale now that you've been deferred there, because if you applied to Cornell your odds at acceptance there would not be high. While Cornell's acceptance rate is higher than Yale's, it is nevertheless approximately 20 percent overall. So about 80% of the applicant pool unfortunately are forced to look elsewhere. If you want to apply to CAS (arts and sciences), or Hotel Management, or AEM (undergrad business), or AAP (architecture) the acceptance rate is even more stringent ... so, good luck.</p>