<p>Is all the competition, business frats/clubs, etc necessary to get into Haas really worth it, especially in light of the current economy? It seems like so many people are doing it for the "money" instead of because they like it.</p>
<p>Let me put it this way: If you don't want to be a business major than don't apply for Haas. </p>
<p>It is nothing to do with the money because statistically students make the same money and get the same jobs coming out of Haas as they do coming out of Econ in L&S. </p>
<p>You do college once, do it right. If you really want to make a lot of money in consulting or in commercial real estate, or whatever, you will. Seriously, it is about you and not about the major. If you're a Haas business major but you can't interview, then that is a bigger problem. </p>
<p>Better to do a major you like and can get the highest GPA in, whether that's in business, economics, oceanography, or history. Whatever you want, don't get caught up with the elitist Haas-holes because when it comes down to getting a job, it comes down to you and not the program-- after all, it's Berkeley, how bad can any of us really be? ;-)</p>
<p>I agree with bchbabe. If its about getting a well paying job, you can get pretty SIMILAR jobs as people in Haas by majoring in Econ or math or stats as long as you have the drive, interview skills, etc.</p>
<p>Exactly. Likewise, how would you feel doing all that work to get into Haas (which I think is a bit much just for a business program, I mean Haas is still not Wharton although it is a Top 10 program) and then you discover you don't really like business or the classes they offer? You can take business classes at Haas when you're not a business major. If for example you are a PoliSci major and you only want to take classes on marketing you can take- marketing, brand strategy, strategic planning, etc. If you're a business major there are so many core classes you have to take you don't usually have time to take many electives (ie. you would in the example be able to take marketing but not brand strategy or strategic planning).</p>
<p>I'd like to see bchbabe's statistics on that one, especially considering so many econ majors tried to get into Haas and it didn't work out. Yeah, it's probably not far off but the opportunities that are offered only through the business school are substantial and they at least started off with higher gpa's on average for sure.</p>
<p>As far as polisci but taking some biz courses, if you want a great job (fulfilling and challenging, not just money) majors outside of biz, econ, cs, eng, etc. had better have outstanding gpa's, interviewing skills and internships.</p>
<p>Top 3 and number 1 on the west coast btw. No disrespect, Cal's awesome whatever your major. I just think my points on the margin have more reality behind them.</p>
<p>Also, don't underestimate the fact that its VERY hard to get into a Haas class without being IN Haas. Especially for popular classes like marketing, accounting, finance, etc.</p>
<p>No, it isn't that difficult to get into most of the intro "core" business classes: Micro, Macro, Intro to Financial Accounting, Managerial Accounting, Intro to Finance, OB, and Marketing. These are UGBA 101-106.</p>
<p>However, it is ridiculously hard to get in most of the elective business classes which are the UGBA classes numbered 117-196. Some of them such as 131 (Financial Statement Analysis), 133 (Investments), and 152 (Negotiations) almost NEVER have non-Haas students in them since Haas students are pulled off the waitlist first regardless of waitlist order. The CPA Prep courses (120A-126) are also very difficult for non-Haas students to get into, particularly auditing (126).</p>
<p>There are some elective classes relatively easy for non-Haas students to get into such as 141, 143, C172, and 180 which aren't as popular.</p>