<p>There is a boy at my school in Wyoming who is a mediocre Football player, has a 4.0, and a 28 on his ACT. Other than that, he basically has no extra curriculars or accomplishments.</p>
<p>If a coach called him and told him to apply to Columbia, is there a good shot he will get in?</p>
<p>Probably not. Columbia is seeking to admit intellectually and socially motivated students, not those who seem to be going through the motions of life.</p>
<p>if he is talking to the coaches he may</p>
<p>One of my friends had 3.9 (I think), 32 on ACT, and was asked to apply by the soccer coach. They even flew her into NY for free to tour the campus. Rejected :(</p>
<p>he's definitely not gauranteed a place.</p>
<p>Thanks for all of the feedback.</p>
<p>I feel like I have worked so hard to get in and it just worries me that he will get in for being in football.</p>
<p>we're not Ohio State.</p>
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<p>But Ohio State not only takes every moron who plays football, but every moron -- period. I think as a land-grant college, all Ohio residents are entitled to attend.</p>
<p>fine, we're not, uh, Boston College.</p>
<p>Or USC.</p>
<p>USC's a perfect example. A Notre Dame or even a BC has some standards for their athletes (ND reasonably high actually). At USC, as long as you get minimum NCAA GPA (820 on the old scale), you're in.</p>
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<p>Wow, apparently that Ivy League education has left you woefully unable to make the simplest factual statement or do the least bit of basic research before making a fool of yourself.</p>
<p>There is nothing about being a land grant university that mandates open admissions. Cal- Berkeley and UCLA are technically land grant universities although the ag functions are centered at the Davis campus. Wisconsin, Purdue, Illinois are also land grant universities. By the way, Ohio State, while far from Columbia admissions stats, had a 52% acceptance rate and an average SAT score of 1250 and a middle 50% range on the ACT of 26-30.</p>
<p>I guess 40K/year can't buy you everything, like the ability to make a well thought point or do so with any class.</p>
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<p>Correct that a land grant school doesn't equate to open admissions. But I didn't say that. Read more carefully next time.</p>
<p>There's something about Ohio State's land-grant that does give Ohio residents the right to attend.</p>
<p>See for example: Faculty</a> Handbook:Mission Statement</p>
<p>Open admissions apply to regional campuses. After which, they have to apply as transfer students to the Columbus campus as would anyone else.</p>
<p>That, my friend, is a very different situation than the one you spelled out in your earlier post. Your exact words were, "I think as a land-grant college, all Ohio residents are entitled to attend." Now I may not have an Ivy League education (my graduate degree is only from lowly Chicago), but that would certainly seem to imply for any English 101 grader that Ohio State's alleged (and erroneous) open admissions are the result of its land-grant status. Perhaps your readers are reading quite carefully, and you should simply learn to write more carefully.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I doubt there is any way of actually getting you to admit error. You strike me as way too much of the precocious and pretentious nerd to admit error. You also strike me as the kind of guy who holds quite a grudge against kids who ended up going to flagship publics instead of your vaunted Ivy. What's the matter? Were they the guys who ended up going to prom with the girls you could only fantasize about? I certainly would have hated living on the lower bunk from you and your pent up repressions. It certainly must have made for some awkward mornings.</p>
<p>lenny- i understand where you're coming from, but don't. it's useless. this guy (columbia2002) is just like that. not all ivy league people look down on state schools, in fact most are well-adjusted, nice, humble people.</p>
<p>(ok, so the last part i just pulled outta my ass, but i hope it's true)</p>
<p>at the very least, those of us who look down on state schools tend to be much more diplomatic and tactful about it and have some goddamn discretion :)</p>
<p>"ok, so the last part i just pulled outta my ass, but i hope it's true)"</p>
<p>it's true.</p>
<p>C2002 is one of a kind.</p>