<p>[Incoming</a> First Year Undergraduates, Housing & Residence Life, U.Va.](<a href=“http://www.virginia.edu/housing/fy.php]Incoming”>http://www.virginia.edu/housing/fy.php) does not list any exceptions for incoming freshmen having to live in the dorms.</p>
<p>Of course this seems odd, but this is shocking to me as well…</p>
<p>*Snellgroves pays $8,340 per semester for a bedroom that she shares with one roommate *</p>
<p>Over $16k per year for just a bedroom that you have to share? yikes. Once you add food/meals, you’re up to about $20k for R and B.</p>
<p>Granted it was a long time ago, but my undergrad also required all freshman to live in dorms. I think the oldest undergrad freshman in my class at this LAC was 25 (and single) There was a married couple (age 18) in my freshman year and the college housed them off-campus in a college owned apartment building. I believe most colleges would work to assist or accommodate a non-traditional married couple or a young single parent if approached and if the college or university did not already have accommodations in place…again, I suspect the mother in this post did not address her situation ahead of time. I applaud the mother for trying to better her education but again perhaps lacked judgement or forethought (even if this was an “emergency” that required her to have the toddler with her in the dorm which I suspect not) when selecting housing.</p>
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<p>That price looks like it includes the meal plan, based on the prices contained in <a href=“http://www.nyu.edu/content/dam/nyu/studentAffairs/documents/nextStop/housing/NYU-HousingGuide-1213.pdf[/url]”>http://www.nyu.edu/content/dam/nyu/studentAffairs/documents/nextStop/housing/NYU-HousingGuide-1213.pdf</a> .</p>
<p>(It does seem quite difficult to find anything cost-related for NYU’s New York campus in NYU’s web search.)</p>
<p>^ on the NYU website, go to admission then Financial Aid. There is a pdf document called Financial Facts. Very easy to find.</p>
<p>I see… putting in “cost of attendance” or similar terms into the search box came up with nothing unless you wanted to attend the Abu Dhabi campus or the MBA program.</p>
<p>Ms. Snellgroves should not have been put in this situation in the first place. NYU has since found alternative housing for the mother of the child. They should have done so sooner.</p>
<p>The outcomes for children with single mom’s with a college degree vs no college degree are vastly different. The need for college housing for single mom’s is significant. A more progressive school would have a better way to meet this need than merely putting a mom in a regular dorm with some visitation allowances for her toddler. Many schools have done so.</p>
<p>Glido, we do not know what the mother told NYU. That being said, I do not think it is NYU’s or any other schools’s responsiblity to provide housing for mothers, particularly undergrads. I have told my DD repeatedly, if you get pregnant, there will be consequences. I think NYU fell down on this, but I do not support schools having to deal with UG mothers or fathers. Its on them.</p>
<p>I don’t think NYU fell down on this at all, they moved the mother to a single pretty quickly it appears. Kayf, I agree with you that colleges should not be required to accommodate everyone’s ideosyncratic lifestyle, but I appreciate when people are upfront about their situations and I can appreciate colleges and unis that try to accommodate them.</p>
<p>Mom of 3, it is not clear to me that the school would have acted, had the writer not gone public. Until that point, the RD was talking about “communication” and “compromise” In this situation, imho, those were not the right words to use. When RD’s see to “accomodate” at the expense of other students, it is wrong, and certainly no the school I would want if I were paying 60G per year.</p>
<p>ucbalumnas:</p>
<p>[Financial</a> Aid and Scholarships](<a href=“http://www.nyu.edu/admissions/financial-aid-and-scholarships.html]Financial”>Financial Aid and Scholarships)</p>
<p>under Important Announcements click on the link that says NYU Financial Facts. Page 3.</p>
<p>The 6 overnights, while bothersome, isn’t really the issue, its that this 4 year old could be in the dorm room from 7am to 10pm or so all day, every day with no recourse. Sorry, it is just NOT something a college student should have to deal with, period. Who cares what the “rules” state, it’s just NOT appropriate for anyone.</p>
<p>^^I don’t think very many would disagree with you SteveMA. Another example of “common sense” going out the window and some national urge to let rules and laws take the place. I said in an earlier post I can imagine a number of colleges and unis suddenly feeling the urge to put a lower end limit on the age of overnight guests just to “protect” themselves from someone who lacks common sense.</p>
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<p>Considering how many snafus various HS classmates and colleagues had during their NYU undergrad years…including housing, it wouldn’t be surprising to me at all if the mother in question requested a single or parent-friendly housing and they “forgot” about it or screwed up the request somehow. </p>
<p>And yes, NYU does have apartment style dorms and NYU owned apartments for grad students, faculty, and undergrads who are parents or who otherwise want an available apartment.</p>
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<p>NYU had already promised to look into the incident before the childfree roommate sent the letter. The letter writer quotes them as saying so. NYU appears to have moved her on the 17th. The post here at CC was made the evening of the 16th, and the Huffpost article was published on the 18th. It’s impossible that the NYU moved her in response to the Huffpost article, and seems unlikely to me that it was in response to the post here, given that it seems like it would take a little time to arrange the move. It seems more likely that the move was already in the works, although it’s possible it was in response to a phone call from the media which let them know the article was in the works.</p>
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<p>I totally agree that 7 am to 10 pm every day would be horrible, but NYU’s policies do appear to include ways for roommates to address situations where visitors are there excessively. In this case, however, the roommate initially indicated that the child would be there 2 weekends a month (this is from the childfree roommate’s post here on CC). Now, two weekends a months might still be more than childfree roommate is comfortable with, but it’s not the same as all day every day.</p>
<p>As for the emergency, I think it really depends on what the emergency is.</p>
<p>“You know, I’ve really enjoyed being with him over break, it’s hard to say goodbye. I know, I’ll claim I have an emergency” – To me, this is unfair to even ask.</p>
<p>“Child usually lives with grandma who lives an hour away, but she’s broken her leg and can’t care for him. Roommate thinks, well I’ll ask and if I get a ‘no’, then I guess I have to go stay at grandma’s and commute for the next few weeks.” – To me, this is reasonable to ask, and equally reasonable for the childfree roommate to say no.</p>
<p>“Child usually lives with grandma, there was a housefire and Grandma’s in the hospital. Choices seem to be mom and child move to a shelter, child goes to foster care, or child comes in the dorm.” – To me, this is reasonable to ask, and if I were the childfree roommate I’d have a really hard time saying no. </p>
<p>Lots that we don’t know here before we can judge either party.</p>
<p>Jane, it would seem to me that we don’t know what NYU was doing nor every place that the writer was posting on – so I do not know when their final decision was made. We do not know if NYU contacted the writer on the 17th and said, we are definitely making a switch. They did not say that in the interview. </p>
<p>I do not care what the emergency was or might have been, it is not the roommate’s problem. </p>
<p>If the school wants to accomadate the mother, they should do so without infringing on students. If they want, they can move the mother in with a female RD. As to other ways you alude to, if this is the communicate and compromise approach, no student should have to deal with this. Maybe you do not want to judge, but I do. IMHO, A 4 YO does not belong in a dorm that is not designated family friendly. End of story.</p>
<p>^^^^^^Like.</p>
<p>We do know</p>
<p>-- That, unless the childfree roommate was lying, the mom roommate was there (based on the fact that she posted, on that day on CC).</p>
<p>-- That, the childfree roommate tweeted on the 17th that the mom roommate was moved to a single.</p>
<p>-- That the Huff post reported on the 18th that the mom roommate had been moved.</p>
<p>How does that not add up to the fact that the roommate was moved on the 17th? I guess they could have moved her the evening of the 16th. </p>
<p>What we don’t know, from the sources that are linked here and I agree there may be other sources, but I’m not using them other than the NYU housing policy, is whether the child ever actually spent the night in the dorm, or for that matter set foot in the dorm. We do know that the mom requested that the child be allowed to stay for 6 nights, and that the roommate turned down that request, but whether the mom had the child stay 3 nights, or made other arrangements, or tried to sneak the child child in for 4 nights after being told no, we don’t know. </p>
<p>All we know is that the following occurred, in the following sequence.</p>
<p>1) The mom roommate informed the childfree roommate that she had a child, and asked to have her child there for six nights, and then for every other weekend in the spring semester.</p>
<p>2) The childfree roommate said no to the six nights and contacted the RD.</p>
<p>3) The RD told her that the mom roommate was within her rights to have the child visit, that he would look into it and that the childfree roommate should also, in the meantime, talk to the mom roommate to see if a compromise was possible.</p>
<p>4) The mom roommate posted on CC and contacted Huffpost. (not sure of sequence of these two)</p>
<p>5) NYU moved the mom roommate.</p>
<p>We also know that from start to finish. That is from the day the roommates presumably met (presumably the 6th or 7th) to the day the roommates were separated (the 18th). Was about 11 or 12 days. </p>
<p>Based on that, I’m not judging anyone. If it turned out that the mom roommate lied about the emergency, or brought her kid in after being told no, then I’ll judge her. If it turned out that NYU knew that she wanted to bring her child before assigning the roommates, or that they didn’t initiate the move until after they knew about the Huffpost article, then I’ll judge them. Until then, I’ll reserve my judgement.</p>