Is it really that hard to get into the UC's from out of state?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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<p>Well, I'm currently a sophomore in high school and I've been considering different colleges but I'm sure that I want to go to one of the UC's or somewhere in cali.</p>

<p>Here's some background info:</p>

<p>Currently I have a perfect GPA and I'm in all honors and AP classes possible for my year. By the time I graduate, I will have taken 10 AP classes. I played volleyball my freshman year and I played badminton. I dont play vball anymore but I still play badminton. I might be on varsity this year. I was elected secretary of the freshman class (student council). I'm currently in the Political Action Club and the math team at my school. (And I'm going to regionals for math team next Saturday, hopefully I'll qualify for state!!)</p>

<p>Is this good enough to get into USC, Berkeley or Davis?? Is there any other school I should consider?</p>

<p>any comments or advice will be helpful. thanks.</p>

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<p>Not if you don't apply for aid.</p>

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<p>Need some numbers, baby. We have no clue what your HS is like...</p>

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<p>well i haven't taken the ACT or SAT yet. But my predicted ACT was 29.</p>

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<p>Too early to tell.</p>

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<p>Yeah, it's too early to tell, but definitely do your best in high school and have fun while you're at it...and then apply and see. you need some luck too.</p>

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<p>Should be slightly easier this year, as they're aiming to increase OoS enrollment...</p>

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<p>Last year the admit rate for OOS was 16.6% and the general admit rate was 24% (as reported by their web site). International was 22%. Source: <a href="http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp&lt;/a>
(please note these are different from the %s they report for some reason but if you do the math that's what you get)</p>

<p>So basically it's hard but not impossible. If they admit more OOS it's clearly get easier.</p>

<p>The UCs don't look at need for aid or your race when determining admission. If you need aid it'd actually be easier as they are allowed to favor those in lower socioeconomic brackets.</p>

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<p>I'm an out-of-stater, and as biomech said, 1/6 admit rate for out-of-staters.</p>

<p>However, they are planning to increase that rate starting this year due to the economic situation.</p>

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<p>It's going to be significantly more difficult, but it's not that hard. Just try your best and apply. Technically, the adcom does not discriminate, even though the decision criteria is heavily biased to admit in-state students.</p>

<p>That might change though as we're in a budget crisis and OOS students help alleviate the problem. A bit more diversity is a plus. Do definitely apply!</p>

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<p>The reason UC's favor in state over out of state is that they are all public universities. They get most of their funding from the government and CA residents pay taxes to help cover these costs so it's no wonder that even if you're admitted as OOS you pay an exorbitant $30,000 for tuition.</p>

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<p>firecrackerrr do you by any chance live in Washington?</p>

<p><em>looked at the math team regionals next week part haha</em></p>

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<p>If you do decide to apply, make sure you have the A-G requirements met, especially the
1 year of Visual/Performing arts requirement. This one does a lot of OOS'ers in. Go to UC Pathways on the web to check the requirements if you haven't already.</p>

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<p>Don't forget subject tests. USC is more focused on tests than the UCs, so try to better a 29.</p>

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<p>If you are not applying for aid, it is definitely much easier for you to be accepted.</p>

<p>If you are applying for aid... good luck.</p>

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<p>^^That's not true. The UCs are need-blind. Their finaid is so poor, it doesn't matter if you are full pay or not.</p>

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<p>True that. The great lack of financial aid really means everyone gets screwed in the end.</p>

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<p>UC is not need-blind for internationals.</p>

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In general, UC Berkeley does not have scholarships or financial aid available to entering undergraduate students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the United States. International applicants are encouraged to explore scholarship opportunities from private sources.

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<p>Correct, UC does not offer finaid for non-citizens. But that is different than using finaid as an admission criteria; a HUGE difference....UC will admit non-citizens regardless of financial need, but once admitted, UC will not give the non-citizens any financial aid.</p>

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<p>Do extracurriculars fill the Visual/Performing Arts requirement? I don't have any HS classes that pertain to that, but I do take piano lessons outside of school.</p>