Is it worth keeping a LDR? + other things...

Okay, so I’m the type of person who tends to be VERY easily swayed by what other people say. Anyways, here’s just the basics, and could some people with experience help me out? I’m really sorry if it’s lengthy, and I popped in a few questions about long distance relationships.

  • My boyfriend and I have been dating for a year now. We started out as very close friends in high school, so we joke around a lot. We've fought and gone over rough things together (like when he got rejected from multiple schools, I was always there to hug him through it).
  • I'm going to NYU, he's going to Northeastern. It's not coast to coast, but it's still far...
  • I'm the jealous type. Unfortunately, my boyfriend's a looker (and I don't know why the hell he'd date someone like me) and he ends up attracting crushes and flirting. Call me paranoid, but when anyone who's female breathes near him, I get scared and insecure. But he's not the type to cheat.
  • I brought the subject up a month ago about what we're going to do after graduation. He started crying (which he hasn't since he was a little kid) and told me his friends wanted him to break up with me to avoid heartbreak, but that he didn't want to, not a chance in hell.
  • My friends (and his best friend) insist that college is a huge new world, and that we'll both change so drastically in character that we'll not love each other anymore. I also confessed to his best friend that I'm afraid he'll fall for some other perfect girl, and he affirmed this by saying NE girls are beautiful, talented, and well....endowed....and flirty. I'm sure this isn't the case for every girl, but well...his brother goes to NE. So I feel inadequate, and like I'll be cheated on, because I was cheated on in the past.

so questions…questions, questions.

  1. To those in LDR's in college, how hard is it to see your SO?
  2. How do you trust them? I know this is a stupid question, but how do you find it in your heart to fully believe they aren't fooling around and sharing flirty looks with someone else?
  3. When guys go to college, do they get a lot of female best friends?
  4. And I know this is a weird question, but to former LDR students...were you ever cheated on, and was that ever the reason you ended a LDR?
  5. Is it true that you change drastically in college? And that you meet other people who are "right" for you? Because honestly, I'm quite happy with who I have.

sorry for the whiny stupid post, but my friends are being no help at the moment.

For context: dating hs best friend / boyfriend for 2.5 years, starting senior year of high school. We both go to school 2 hours away from home and 3 hours away from each other.

  1. If we go home to visit, we plan it at the same time. On breaks we make an effort to get together. When one of us can get a ride to the other's school, we generally do so. Overall I see him in person 1 - 3 times per semester.
  2. Think about how you feel. Will you be falling all over every guy you see? Of course not, because you like and care about your boyfriend. Trust that he feels the same. He has chosen you for a year already and if he says he doesn't want to break up, he's going to CONTINUE choosing you. Actively choosing you. Being COMMITTED to you.
  3. Probably depends on the guy. Mine has a mix of friends. In HS I always had more guy friends than girls, so maybe that was a concern for him if he was jealous at all. I don't know if he has been.
  4. Still going strong as we finish up sophomore year. We went through a rough patch this year but it was due to the distance, not cheating. I felt like he was choosing other things over me, like cutting short a Skype call to go to a party.
  5. I think I've changed, but not drastically, and I haven't met anyone who cares about me as much as my boyfriend does. I think being friends first is a special kind of relationship. We've known each other for seven or eight years now. I changed during that time, too, and we stayed friends.

I wasn’t in a long-distance relationship in college, but I have done long-distance relationships before and am currently in one with my husband, who was my high school sweetheart (we have three more weeks before this dratted thing is over and we’re living in the same place again).

  1. New York to Boston is an easy ride. You can hop on the Amtrak or on a Greyhound or Megabus relatively cheaply and get between the two cities in 4 hours. That’s close enough for lots of weekend trips and spending breaks together. However, the ease of travel doesn’t necessarily translate into frequency of visiting. You’ll each be starting new lives - meeting new friends and getting into new interests and hobbies in very large, very fascinating cities. You may want to reserve some of your weekends for exploring your new cities with new friends or participating in on-campus activities.

With that said, how often and how hard it is to see each other depends a lot on the other things you decide to do and your commitment to visiting one another.

Questions 2 through 4 are essentially the same question and can be addressed by the same thing: In order to have a successful long-distance relationship, the partners in the relationship have to trust each other completely. If you don’t trust each other, it won’t work.

Trust is probably the single most important element in a long-distance relationship. It’s important in regular relationships, too, but in LDRs you aren’t there on a regular basis to see your SO. So you just have to trust that he’s not violating the boundaries of your relationship, whatever those are. You can’t be spending a lot of time thinking about whether he has female friends or is fooling around with someone else or cheating. You have to believe that he’s not. That is the only way to do this. Otherwise, it’s not worth the anxiety, and you’re going to break up anyway.

If you have a strong foundation for your relationship, it’s easier - you’ve already built trust and have that to go on when you’re separated. However, the knowledge that you are the jealous type and a bit insecure doesn’t do you any favors.

First of all, getting scared and insecure “when anyone who’s female breathes near him” isn’t healthy regardless of the kind of relationship you’re in. Frankly, it’s controlling behavior. But it’s a non-starter for an LDR. If you want this to work, you are going to have to get over that. If you want ANY relationship to work, you are going to have to get over it. Yes, your boyfriend will probably have some friends who are women. Yes, some of those women may be attracted to him and try to flirt with him (which is pretty harmless). Some of those women may even be romantically interested in him and want to date him. None of that matters, though, if your boyfriend wants to be with you and doesn’t pay them any romantic attention. BUT you have to be realistic about what that means. Being friends with, chatting with, even a little light flirting with members of the opposite sex is shrug human. You have to let that go. Focus on what’s really important in your relationship.

5 is an irrelevant question. Of course some people in LDRs have been cheated on just like some people in regular relationships have been cheated on. For some people that ended the relationship and for others it didn't. That has no bearing, though, on whether your own boyfriend will cheat. Honestly, if you are already this worried about him cheating, I don't have a good feeling about the health and chances of this LDR. You already said that he's not the type to cheat on you. So why are you so worried?

As for whether it’s true or not that you change drastically in college…well, yeah, most people change pretty significantly in their 20s. On a basic biological level, your brain doesn’t finish developing until you’re around 25 or so. Psychologically, as you grow older and learn more about the world around you and take on adult roles, you’re going to change a lot. People change a lot in their 30s and 40s and even 50s, too (ever heard of a mid-life crisis?) But the 20s are a time of tremendous change. However, that doesn’t mean that you and your boyfriend will grow apart and stop being right for each other. As I mentioned above, my husband was my high school sweetheart - we started dating a little over 15 years ago. We got married almost 4 years ago. We’ve grown up together and grown closer to each other in the process of maturing. Sometimes that happens. I know a couple of other friends from high school who married someone they started dating in high school.

It’s also true that you might grow apart as you get older. Your relationship could end in a burst of drama and tears, or you may just slowly grow apart. Maybe you will meet someone better for you - someone who makes you even happier than your boyfriend does now. Maybe you guys will break up in college and get back together years later. You can’t predict the future! So don’t try to. One of my regrets from college was working so hard to keep my relationship together that I neglected parts of just being a college student, having fun, and letting whatever would happen happen. I spent so much time with my boyfriend (especially when he went through a low period) that I didn’t really develop the deep friendships or participate in all the activities I really wanted to and would have had I not been dating him or trying so hard. You’re young, and you have your whole lives to be really serious; in the mean time, make sure that you focus on yourself and develop and grow and get the most of out of attending a great place like NYU and living in New York for four years. You want close friends and fond memories from college. You don’t want to spend the majority of the time on the bus/train worried and anxious about your long-distance boyfriend.

If you guys don’t want to break up, then don’t. But keep it easy. Enjoy the rest of your senior year and your summer. Don’t spend a whole lot of brain space pondering deep thoughts about this. Decide together what you want to towards the middle/end of summer. And if you decide to give it a go, stay upbeat about it. You need to work on your jealousy and insecurity. Set some expectations about how often you communicate and visit each other (that’s the single thing that LDRs probably fight about the most - usually one partner who wants to communicate/visit far more often than the other. Again, be realistic!) Be flexible, as you’re both going to be in college and starting something new and potentially hard.

And check in relatively frequently. Check your own feelings. Are you still feeling it? Do you still want to work at this? Is it too hard? Remember that an ending relationship is not the end of the world and may ultimately be the best thing for you. It’s not that relationships aren’t hard work, it’s just that at your age you shouldn’t be working so hard to keep yourselves together when there are frankly more important things for you to focus on. (And remember, I’m saying that as someone who was deeply in love in high school - so I know what you’re going through. Been there, done that. I still say that developing and growing as an individual yourself is far more important than preserving your relationship.)

Disclaimer: Never been in a relationship in my life, but i’m basing my advice off of what multiple friends went through.

  1. Boston to NYC is an easy distance to traverse if you have a 3-day weekend, and you coordinate your weekends back home and spend time with each other over breaks. Overall, I don't think your distance would be too bad to navigate.
  2. You have to give them that chance. If your boyfriend currently isn't flirting with other girls and is always coming to you, then you shouldn't be worried at the moment. You'll know if he isn't behaving if you see a shift in his behavior. If his phone calls become fewer than they used to be and he sounds more distant, then I'd be worried. But burn that bridge if you get there. Just have some faith in him that he'll always come back to you. If you keep doubting him, the relationship is gonna go to hell anyways.
  3. Depends on the guy and the major. Most maintain similar social circles to the ones they had in high school. If their major has a higher concentration of guys, then they will have fewer female friends than guy friends.
  4. Again, never been in a relationship, but of the half-dozen LDRs I witnessed, only 1 ended in cheating. Most relationships ended because one or both people got bored with the relationship and weren't investing the energy they should've into the relationship.
  5. Again, depends on the person. Most people do grow and change a lot in person because they have the space and resources to discover what fits best for them. If you are happy with your life now, that's awesome! But don't let this cloud your opportunities. For all you know, your future roommate might wind up being your maid of honor and your current best friend might wind up completely changing. Many people do maintain some strong relationships from high school, but they also make even stronger relationships in college.

There’s no set answer as to whether he’ll cheat on you or whether your relationship will last. For some it lasts and for others it doesn’t. Should you break up beforehand just because there’s a chance the relationship won’t work out? Not necessarily. Should you break up beforehand so you aren’t held back by him by visiting him on weekends and worrying about him constantly? Maybe. Should you stay with him and see where things go? Possibly.

My boyfriend and I went to different schools that were close together. We saw each other basically every week, but it held both of us back from branching out and kept us from having the real “college experience.” We were together four years before he cheated on me in his senior year of college (last semester), and we broke up.

In the end, even though it SUCKS beyond belief to get cheated on, us breaking up was probably the best thing to happen to me in my college career. My grades skyrocketed, I had more time to try new things, I got offered internships, I made a bunch of new friends, I had all the fun and college life that I had been missing out on before. Your boyfriend isn’t guaranteed to hold you back or to cheat on you or anything, but it could happen. There’s no easy solution to this, unfortunately, so I’m sorry I can’t give you a definitive answer. But I can tell you that if you do stay together and you break up, things will be okay.

This is what usually happens:

You swear YOU TWO ARE DIFFERENT! You can make it work!
At first you facetime every day!
But then you realize that is annoying to your roommate/you have no privacy so you try to find times to facetime when your roommate isn’t there.
But you have classes and he has classes and you joined that club and he is on the intramural soccer team so maybe we can talk on Tuesdays.
He has that co-ed group of friends he goes out on weekends with and you have your group from the dorm.
Oh, here comes Fall break…but his is at a different weekend than yours so you can’t get together…
There is that one person in the group that you/he kind of likes…but you have girl/boyfriend!
Why isn’t he talking to you as often? or Why are you looking at excuses not to talk to him?
So you look forward to thanksgiving…but by then you are kind of really into that other guy/he is really into that other girl and you kind of get together over break and ooohhhhh noooo you have a fight about not talking as much anymore and you break up.
It’s called the Turkey Drop.

Right now he likes you and you like him and you don’t see any reason to break up…also college is scary and new and you don’t want to give up a person who supports you.

But on the other hand, you can start college fresh and meet new people and not have to worry about who you are with or who he is with and what you are doing.

@bopper is SO right. Nailed it.

Anecdotes:
When I was a freshman in college I had a bunch of friends from my dorm + mutual friends. Eventually there was one guy, R, who I gravitated to. But then there was homecoming…and guess whose HS girlfriend thatwas still in HS came out to visit it him? Before that he was acting very strange…then I found out why. He and she came to a dance that I was at…and he was looking miserable. Well soon she was dropped and we kept going out…and are married today.

My daughter’s BF went to college a year before she did…and they had this very same conundrum. She decided to let him go off to school unencumbered…and she met a great guy later that year.

LDRs in college, particularly if you have been dating since high school, are totally stupid and needless IMO.

Here’s my thoughts, hope they help you!

  1. To those in LDR's in college, how hard is it to see your SO? In any LDR it's tough to find the time/money to see your SO. It's a good idea to plan together and agree a "longest separation time" - so a time that you must meet before, and make the effort to do so.
  2. How do you trust them? I know this is a stupid question, but how do you find it in your heart to fully believe they aren't fooling around and sharing flirty looks with someone else? Maybe this article will help you? http://surviveldr.com/advice/four-signs-can-trust-ldr-love/
  3. When guys go to college, do they get a lot of female best friends? I think this totally depends on the guy in question. If they have female friends now, then probably yes. If they're more of a guys guys, maybe no. In any case of course you meet a lot of new people when you go to college. You are likely to meet other guys, and end up working on assignments/ in teams with them, and yes, making friends of both sexes.
  4. And I know this is a weird question, but to former LDR students...were you ever cheated on, and was that ever the reason you ended a LDR? Infidelity is an intensely personal thing. I would avoid making a decision now about "what I would do if he cheated" because until/if that situation happens you can't predict your response. At the most, have a discussion with your BF about what "cheating" means to both of you, so you're clear.
  5. Is it true that you change drastically in college? And that you meet other people who are "right" for you? Because honestly, I'm quite happy with who I have. Yes, many people change and grow as people a lot in college. Allowing room for the other person to grow and change within a relationship is not easy, but it's not something you should be scared of. Develop your own interests and fascinate each other with your new information!

Don’t be discouraged by post #8, OP. LBad is once again extending his personal experience to apply to everyone. I love my boyfriend and would not call our 2.5 year relationship either stupid or needless. He’s one of the best things to ever happen to me.

Turkey Drop…Breaksgiving…

As for your questions:

2. How do you trust them? I know this is a stupid question, but how do you find it in your heart to fully believe they aren’t fooling around and sharing flirty looks with someone else?

tbh, I think that the trust and jealousy thing is the real issue for you, which you need to deal with whether or not you break up with the bf. How do you trust anybody? what is the point of being in a relationship with somebody you don’t trust? If you really don’t “believe in your heart” that your bf isn’t fooling around why are you going out with somebody who has such little respect for you?

(and, do you really know a lot of people who give ‘flirty looks’ to people they know are already in a relationship?!)

3. When guys go to college, do they get a lot of female best friends?

When girls go to college, do they get a lot of male best friends? When people go to college the get a lot of new friends. This is still about question #2: either you trust your bf - no matter who his friends are- or you don’t.

4. And I know this is a weird question, but to former LDR students…were you ever cheated on, and was that ever the reason you ended a LDR?

Of the ones that I know of first hand, there was no cheating- but it was often discovering that there was somebody else that they would like to be involved with that led to the text/email/call that it was time to end the relationship. I know second hand of ones where there was cheating until the next break, and then there was a break-up over the holiday. I don’t know of any in which there was long-term cheating.

5. Is it true that you change drastically in college?

If you don’t change a LOT in college then something is very, very wrong. You don’t become a different person, but you should be growing into your adult self. Your brain is actually physically changing. On top of that you are stepping up to take responsibility for yourself, making choices about your life path, So yes, you should be changing- and so should your bf.

And that you meet other people who are “right” for you?

Perhaps, but probably not your forever person: about 18% of people end up with their HS sweetheart and 28% of people with their college sweetheart (source [here](http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/facebook-data-odds-soulmate-college/))

Because honestly, I’m quite happy with who I have.

I don’t know how to make this not sound snarky, but I don’t really mean it to! But how happy can you honestly be when you are by your own description a mass of jealousy and insecurity about the relationship?

If it’s 4 or so hours, then it’s fine. But if you’re 6+ hours away and/or in different states, then why on earth would you do it??

@bodangles actually thought you were a guy the whole time, haha!

@LBad96 It seems like a more common misconception than I’d have expected, given the username (which is a nickname I once acquired because of my love for dangly earrings). :stuck_out_tongue:

Also, keep in mind that people are in love with people that meet their Emotional Needs.
Needs like Conversation, Recreational Compantionship, Affection, Admiration, etc.
Someone who is nearby can do that more than someone is 6+ hours away.
That is why people tend to start to get closer to people around them at college.

If you were married, you would have to put up barriers so you would make sure that other people were not meeting those emotional needs…No walking to class with that person of the opposite sex, no grabbing a bite, etc

But you are in college and are not married…why would someone want to do that?

Huh?

LDRs are harder if you’re emotionally dependent. If you’re going to pine and miss him, if you’re going to spend your days texting, calling, emailing, and mentally planning your next visit rather than engaging the people around you, you are better off getting out of the relationship NOW.

I say this as someone who had a successful LDR. We dated for a year, then he lived & worked in the next state for 2 years before moving back. We lived our lives independently M-F with the very occasional phone call (this was before texting) and saw each other on weekends, but we were out of college by that point. We’ve now been married for almost 25 years.

Our time together was/is richer because we had outside friends and interests. We both had & have friends of the opposite sex and it’s no big deal. If you’re going to be worried and jealous you probably don’t belong in the relationship.

^^This

There are a couple of possible red flags in your post which has this outside observer here a bit concerned:

  1. You mentioned that you are very easily swayed by what other people say.
  2. You stated that you're the jealous type, that you're scared & insecure, and your BF is a looker.
  3. You confided in his best friend about your insecurities.
  4. You stated that you feel inadequate & that BF will cheat on you.

Here are my random thoughts, in no particular order, on your situation.

  • If you & BF really want the long distance relationship to work, then the 2 of you together will make it work. But it has to be a mutual thing. 1 of my sister’s friends went to college in CA and the friend’s BF went to college at Dartmouth. They remained together the whole time and have been happily married for many years.
  • Your friends & BF's best friend are correct in that college is a whole new world. New environment, new friends, new experiences, cool stuff to learn in your classes.
  • BUT just because it's a 'whole new world' doesn't mean that you have to entirely throw away your old one.
  • Don't do something just because everybody else says that you should throw away your BF. If you & he are committed to each other, then you'll find a way to make it work.
  • That being said, you & BF MIGHT end up drifting apart.
  • It is NORMAL for people to change when they go off to college. It's called growing up, maturing, etc. Your relationship w/BF WILL change. It will never remain exactly like it is right now in college.
  • Going to a particular university just because of a boyfriend or girlfriend is always a dumb idea. Good for you for not making that decision.
  • NYU & Northeastern are not THAT far away from each other.
  • How hard is it to see your SO in college? It depends. I had 2 friends in college who were in committed LDRs with their BFs. 1 of them purposely picked classes that were only held on Tues & Thurs. So we really only saw her Tues-Thurs because after her last class on Thursdays, she would pack up her car & drive off to spend 4 days with her BF at his college. None of us really had a chance to get to know her very well, though, because she was hardly ever around. It was too bad because she was a cool person. The other friend took turns w/her BF. One weekend, she would visit him. The other weekend, he would visit her. As her roommate it was a big drag, honestly, whenever her BF visited for the weekend because she insisted on having total privacy the whole time, so she was a real brat and HAD to have the bedroom all to herself the whole weekend. I really do not miss her and we did not keep in touch after graduation.
  • It might seem hard to believe right now, but 20 years from now, you will NOT still be BFF's with all of your classmates from high school. You will drift apart and form new friendships with new people. Some friendships & relationships stand the test of time. With other relationships, they only last for a season or 2 of your life. And when I say "season," I don't mean the literal 3 months of winter, spring, summer, or fall.
  • As someone who has been married for 20 years, I'm going to give you a little bit of life advice here. A successful long term relationship with your SO will NEVER be possible if either of you has a best friend of the opposite sex. That's what's called having an emotional affair. Your husband/partner should be your one and only male "best friend" and the opposite applies to your BF.
  • Jealousy and insecurity will always kill a relationship. You need to figure out what it is that you are really afraid of and figure out how to be confident and secure with yourself WITHOUT A BOYFRIEND AT ALL. Otherwise, that jealousy & insecurity will haunt every other relationship down the road, too.
  • Stop confiding in your BF's best friend. You should be sharing those feelings with your boyfriend instead. Are you perhaps looking for that one person to tell you that everything's going to be ok and that you'll be with BF forever and live happily ever after? No one has a crystal ball and so no one will really be able to predict the future for you.
  • Consider also that you were asking for advice from your BF's best friend...who I'm sure is a stand up & honorable guy and everything. But he is just as inexperienced with life as you & BF are. So to be perfectly honest, so WHAT if BF's best friend says that all NE girls have large breasts? BF's best friend is basically acting like a very normal 18 year old high school senior boy - he's a walking, talking set of hormones and he's looking forward to getting laid in college. You know what? ALL colleges have women with large chests...and small chests...and ones that are in between. Stop seeking advice from your BF's best friend because, truthfully, he has no idea what he's talking about.
  • At the end of the day, if you don't even trust your BF now, then you certainly won't trust him when he's in another state at college. Whether a relationship is long distance or not, if there is no trust, then you might as well just be friends with benefits or better yet - not in a relationship with that person at all. It is possible that your friends all see this tendency within you and maybe THAT is why they are all advising you to not have a LDR going off to college.
  • You should make up your own mind and not do something just because somebody else says that you should. That goes along with all of that emotional maturity stuff. People who go through their lives by way of opinion polls end up to be very insecure & miserable people. Going to college at a different school than your BF will be a very good growing experience for you. It might not seem like it right now, but it is.