<p>Hey guys.
I really want to know if my SAT score is gud enough for Penn (I really wanna go there)
Cr-630
Writing-760
Math-790</p>
<p>total: 2180.</p>
<p>If my GPAs, AP scores and other extracurricular activities are pretty gud, do i have a chance?</p>
<p>Penn is more about fit and your overall application than your SATs.</p>
<p>I got a 2070 (not a URM or anything) and I still got in.
Work on your ECs and your essays.
My common app essay was one of the best essays I have ever written.</p>
<p>yeah, you’re straight with a 2180. don’t bother taking it again, if that’s what you were thinking. </p>
<p>just work on other aspects of your app now.</p>
<p>yeah i got in with a 2090, but for engineering. what school/major are you looking at? bc they might take your crit reading into account if you’re not math/science-based. like they won’t turn you away bc of that one score, but you might want to work on that section and take em again.</p>
<p>I remember my college counselor telling me specifically that I needed to average at around 750 for each section to be competitive, or to at least be in the 700’s for all of them. She told me that my scores were my “weakness” and they were around the same as yours. Yes, it’s holistic, but having one less little “weakness” might help you a tiny bit (cough… CR) and I can’t not trust my counselor because she’s apparently amazing at her job. A 2180 is within the ranges though, so if you’re a great student otherwise then this probably won’t swing the scales. I say try one more time to get a better CR though, so that you know you gave it your all.</p>
<p>And another reason to take them again: you scores might randomly jump, as did mine and many of my friends’. Congrats on your already solid scores.</p>
<p>My daughter got a 2150 the first time around, applied early decision and was deferred. She had great grades, essays, recs, ECs, the whole package. She decided to take the SAT again and raised her score to a 2320. She got in. We’re thinking it had something to do with the SAT, but who knows!</p>
<p>thank you so much for your replies 
Yeah. I know my CR is pretty weak, but i wanna be a chem major. so yeah…
Um. if i want to apply as a chem or math major, do i need to apply to CAS or Penn Engineering?</p>
<p>Chem and math are both CAS.</p>
<p>I had a 2150 and got into Wharton, but I also took the ACT and did much better on that. It’s worth a shot. Both have similar score distributions, but I found the ACT to be a lot easier.</p>
<p>Your score by itself is fine, really. If you can focus your efforts into strengthening other parts of your application, I’d do that instead of re-testing, although if you can afford to do so, bringing the CR up to at least a high 600 or low 700 would be solid.</p>
<p>you definitely want to retake it and get your critical reading score up.</p>
<p>even if i m majoring in chem/math, do i really need a higher CR score?</p>
<p>i got in ED at SEAS like i said before, and the first time around i got a 600 CR… took em again and got a 680. i think it’s worth a shot. just do a bunch of CR practice tests and you’ll be fine</p>
<p>You know your strengths and you know your weaknesses, as well as your timetable/schedule. If you’re reluctant to re-take the SATs, then don’t. Infact, focus on prepping for a Chem SAT II and a Math Level II SATII subject test instead and ensure your success on those.<br>
As well, make sure your essays and the rest of your app is solid (i.e. Your ECs, your GPA, the Penn Supplement). Spend time on your essays and don’t be scared to re-write them several times if your gut feeling tells you to (you’ll be amazed as to how right that is throughout the application process). I had a lower CR score than yours and am a M&T student for the class of 2013. I’m also an international student (Canada), and really couldn’t be bothered by retaking the test (and I’m also glad that I didn’t: I literally did not have the time). The time that I could’ve spent studying for retaking the SATs was I know, much better utilized in doing what I loved, and making sure that I did whatever I could to make that known to the admission councellors reading my application.</p>
<p>Is it worth trying to raise a 740 Critical Reading if my composite is 2310? (790 M, 780 WR) Everyone says that you do better your second time, so I’m unsure if its worth taking again, especially at the risk of doing worse. How bad does it look if your scores go down the second time?</p>
<p>^^ no</p>
<p>@op, yes retake it, focus on preparing for the CR – just mass up on vocab and practice CR sections of old SAT’s – i was in the same boat and come round the 2nd time, improved my score by 70 pts… def. worth it – tht way u wont have any regrets… say u dont retake it, then dont get in – ull always say, hmm maybe if i just would have studied a little more for the CR and raised tht 630… u never wanna have regrets, esp in the admissions process… go big or go home</p>
<p>Yes, it’s a good score. Just try to raise your CR score to at least a 700+.</p>
<p>Honestly, you definitely need to raise CR to at least 700.</p>
<p>Although there are certainly examples of students with SATs below the 2180 - 2250 range, which is the average at most Ivy League schools, they’re usually 1) very highly ranked in their HS class (as in, valedictorian or top 1%), 2) URMs, wealthy legacies, etc. or 3) in the nursing school (sorry guys, but it’s true). Luckily nursing has a very minor impact on the school, since it accounts for like 3% of each class.</p>
<p>Certainly in my region, kids with anything below a 2200 were generally not competitive and were not accepted.</p>
<p>i got in with a 660 on reading. 2190 overall. applied ED.
i think you’re good.</p>
<p>I had a 2340 and just barely made it…you should be very worried…</p>
<p>^jk of course :)</p>