Is P/NP better than getting 'B'?

<p>Hello~~~</p>

<p>I'm taking an Art Class for IGETC, but I don't think I can get A in this class.</p>

<p>My GPA is 4.0 so far now.
I don't want to get B that makes my GPA lower.</p>

<p>Do you think Pass / No-Pass is better than getting B??</p>

<p>Yep (10 chars)</p>

<p>Suck it up and take the B. </p>

<p>A 3.91 is not that far off from a 4.0. </p>

<p>But it’s your call, and your transcript.</p>

<p>If you have a 4.0… then why the hell cant you get an A in an ART class. are u kidding me?</p>

<p>haha… “OMG I have a 4.0 but I don’t think I can pass ceramics”. lol Ridiculous</p>

<p>I’m an international student, so as you know I’m not good at english yet. -_-</p>

<p>In this class, A range? is too small to get an A (100 - 92)</p>

<p>Last week, there was a quiz that I had to read a novel before the quiz.
I missed two question in the quiz.
And yesterday, I took a test.
I think I missed at least three questions.</p>

<p>so far now, I’ve lost 3.5.
To get the A, I can’t lose more than 4.5.
But I have two more tests and two more art projects.</p>

<p>Do you think that I can get the A in this class??</p>

<p>I lol’d
10char</p>

<p>This is your own decision to make. If I was an admissions rep and saw that you had a few P/NP and a 4.0 I’d think about tossing your application aside for being a whimp. </p>

<p>It really depends how far along you are man; if you’re planning to transfer next year and you’ve got a ton of units already, sure go right ahead. I see no need for a stupid art class to tarnish your ‘perfect’ reputation.</p>

<p>to graduate schools, it’s a C
to undergrad, it doesn’t really have an impact.</p>

<p>your call, what’s more important to you, now or later?</p>

<p>Depends if you want to go to grad school, and if so what tier. </p>

<p>I don’t think the B will significantly hurt you, but if you want to keep that 4.0 so you can tell people you have one, change it to P/NP</p>

<p>Take the B. It won’t hurt your chances of getting into a UC. It won’t hurt grad school chances either, because most grad schools mostly consider your university transcript, as you “start over” when you transfer. P/NP does not look good at all.</p>

<p>The B won’t hurt you, and it’s better than a Pass.
In my opinion, I think it goes like something like this: A>B>C>P>W>NP>D>F</p>

<p>A Pass is C or better so if it seems like you are a getting a C and don’t need or care about the class then take P/NP. It’s a toss up for a class you would be getting a B in unless just want to brag about your 4.0 or don’t want to seem ■■■■■■■■ that your lowest grade was Art. A student is allowed up to 12-18 transferable P/NP classes which admissions to universities don’t care about, only the particular college you are obtaining a major from does. Some undergrad and grad colleges within certain majors won’t accept P/NP if require a B or better letter grade. After the core and number of transferable units is complete a student could take all the P/NP they wanted and it wouldn’t really matter or make much of a difference.</p>

<p>I don’t get the point anyway, a B is a fine grade to be proud of as long as it’s not in a ridiculously simple class.</p>

<p>a B is a horrible grade… take it p/np and try to never get a B again</p>

<p>Demoz dude…a B is not a “horrororable” grade in college and calculates in as just your above average moron if got as average GPA. Getting a few B’s in college is fine but one should strive more for A’s overall. It’s easy (for me at least) to get B’s but I’ve also been in some hard ass classes where B’s where well on the high end of the curve. I also feel like I was cheated out of a three A’s before because had these mean menopausal teachers. Thankfully I’ve never gotten any C’s and just laugh at those on peoples transcripts. If I’m taking like 4 or 5 classes and in over my head and maybe missed the Withdrawal date I will sacrifice and Fail a classes gracefully then retake and ace and get A,A,A,A,F rather than say A,B,B,A,C. The school I go to now switched to plus/minus grading which throws a whole new curve ball into the mix.</p>

<p>There were a couple 1 and 2 unit computer classes that were only available P/NP so how would one know, care, or be able to discriminate the difference? I took my Intermediate Algebra P/NP since is only a institutional requirement, doesn’t transfer, and a B in a 5 unit class would have been enough to dent my GPA. I also just took History of California P/NP since figured it was an elective. I would have gotten a B since messed up the first test but nailed the next two because knew it was going to be a fun but hard class since the professor wrote the text. I think there were a lot of B’s in just that class.</p>

<p>You will also get some people that looked down on art classes when they sometimes are the most work.</p>

<p>If you’re the type of person that can and normally will receive straight As then the P/NP is a good idea. I’m pretty sure admission officers won’t think you’re a wimp and throw away your app. The P/NP can be seen as either a momentary blunder (which happens to the best of us) or that you were just taking the class for interest - which is originally what P/NP is for, to encourage people to take classes they find interesting without scaring them off by the grading.</p>

<p>But, if you’re the type of person that gets a mix of Bs and As then the P/NP probably won’t do much for you in the long run.</p>

<p>I figure the P/NP option is more like a wildcard because neither does the student until the final result nor admin know if the student received an A, B, or C. It is even acceptable in most CSU’s and UC’s to take one major core or supporting class P/NP if helps your GPA.</p>

<p>They don’t expect students to be good at everything and if the student was some math whiz it wouldn’t matter if he/she took an Art class P/NP or received a B. CSU’s and UC’s still accept 3 or 4 3-5 unit classes P/NP and don’t really care if the class is already offered with a letter grade or pass/no pass(cr/nc).</p>

<p>I would get a mix of A’s and B’s when first started at a different college but would get in the swing of things and pull off more A’s than B’s. There were a few hard academic major classes with lab 4 unit classes I did receive a B in but I still was in the top 10-20%. History of the Earth started with 45 students but the level of difficulty weeded the class down to about 13 or so. Most people made it through Environmental Biology but there was only like 2 A’s and 6 B’s since was no joke. Those were 4 unit classes but got B’s in early western civ, physical geology one time and weather and climate and urban studies another since crammed in 6 weeks and were all very meaty with hard exams. When I first started college I slept through a 6 week session of Algebra and English and only received B’s because didn’t care and wanted them out of the way. I don’t do like to do full time 6 week sessions anymore and just take and ace one main class plus a lab. I’ve got like over a hundred A grades though so it really wouldn’t matter if I did a whole years worth P/NP at this point but no I don’t do in any of my majors, although I still would if didn’t transfer</p>

<p>@demoz: I’m not sure if you’re kidding or not, but a B is much better than a P/NP. A B shows that one possibly worked to his/her potential (even if it’s an art class – they’re not all easy). A P/NP shows that he/she gave up.</p>

<p>Uh ok but I think most of you don’t consider the fact that you must declare P/NP quite early in the semester. So u cant give up after 3 weeks unless youre an idiot</p>

<p>It’s also a statement that you intend to half ass the class and don’t care what your grade is. OTOH I doubt it’ll matter. I really do.</p>