Is this a cause for concern?

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<p>Tufts life -- expectations vs. experience</p>

<p>Elad Cohen
Issue date: 2/22/05 </p>

<p>Are Tufts students disgruntled? Complaints regarding the lack of both school spirit and unbridled fun at Tufts are not without merit; however, I think that the whole issue has less to do with the strict constrictive administration and more to do with our own misguided expectations. </p>

<p>What did you expect Tufts would be like before you enrolled? I expected the study- hard, party-hard mentality to be in full effect. The study-hard expectation was met: I am overworked at Tufts because I choose to take difficult courses and take on a demanding extracurricular load like most students here. However, I also anticipated a great range of parties on campus that would last until I found my pants the next morning. Instead, what I have found is a campus that shuts down at twelve-thirty every weekend. Who is to blame for our sub-par party scene? The administration? The cops? Honestly, I doubt that the Tufts brass is out to kill our fun, but they do need to be concerned with laws, liability and maintaining good relations with our neighbors. In my mind, most of our disappointment comes from us asking more of Tufts than it can possibly offer.</p>

<p>Typically, when I think of college, I envision "Animal House" - nightly wild parties, Div. I sports teams and 80 degree weather. Obviously, Tufts is not "Animal House." Not even close. Tufts is considered to be a globally-oriented, intellectual institution that offers a challenging liberal arts curriculum. However, what about having a flourishing social life here? Did we ever really consider that when we chose Tufts? Did we simply assume that it would come with any college experience? In that sense, Tufts seems to be suffering from an identity crisis.</p>

<p>Tufts was never considered to be a party school, nor is it populated with the nerdy, competitive or uptight students whom you hear about at other top-tier schools. So what are we? Six or seven years ago, Professor's Row supposedly glimmered until the wee hours of the morning with little police intervention and a plethora of fraternity and off-campus parties. And now? The scene has taken somewhat of a 180-degree turn. But can we complain?</p>

<p>During my tour three years ago, I was told that the majority of students here frequently spend nights in Boston, which now I realize must have been an embellishment. My friend, who shall remain nameless, explains why: "They did not tell us we'd have to schlep through a [expletive] blizzard for 15 minutes because the shuttle's not running, wait for the goddamn train, take a 25 minute ride, and then figure out where the [expletive] we are in Boston." Again the identity crisis: are we really a city university?</p>

<p>Considering the rumors I had heard from alumni about Professor's Row and the close proximity of Tufts to Boston, I was certain that the parties would never end. I was wrong. The social life here seems to predominantly revolve around on-campus activities, which I did not expect before I arrived here. Granted, ambitious students could technically commute to Boston and spend the night there - however, said night would be practically over by twelve. Other students could spend their Saturday nights waiting outside fraternity houses for an hour before getting let in and, soon after, getting evacuated. Either way, this is not the Tufts I expected. Or is it just not the college experience I expected?</p>

<p>The reality at Tufts is that students are generally overworked, albeit amicable, and not overly competitive. What seems to be lacking is school spirit. The void left by a weak athletic program and devolving traditions has yet to be filled with something else we can get excited about. Boston is not right around the corner, unless you have a car, and let's not even talk about parking. There are occasionally some fun parties here that do last, but they are few and far between. Rather than being known for both its quality of life and academics, Tufts seems to be almost strictly focused on the academics, clubs, and activities. </p>

<p>The social life here has been compromised at least partially because the university does not want our neighbors or the cops to launch a war against us. But what will happen if the rumors are true and the Greek system is abolished? Were these considerations of ours before we got here, when we were choosing schools? Did we allow ourselves to make the assumption that drinking laws and noise ordinances would become null in our fantasized college world?</p>

<p>It is very easy to complain about the social life, or lack thereof, at our school. Believe me, I would like to see more parties here as much as anyone. However, with my criticism also comes the realization that my expectations were misguided and that the administration is not solely to blame. You will not see me jumping up and down whenever an outsider asks me about my experiences so far at Tufts. However, I am still proud to be afforded the opportunity to attend a top tier institution with many opportunities for spoiled students like myself to take advantage of, if only we search for them and do not expect too many wild parties. </p>

<p>I envision three possible solutions to the social crisis we have here. First, school spirit is severely lacking, perhaps because we do not have Div. I sports teams (squash and sailing do not count). Therefore, we need something to fill that void. Second, the party scene here has been the primary cause of students' disappointment, so I propose that the university make a concerted effort to either reach out to fraternities or cultural organizations. Third, before we enroll, we should be honest about what the Tufts social scene is really like. If students would have known what they got into before they enrolled, they would certainly be less disappointed than many are.</p>

<p>Elad Cohen is a sophomore who has not yet declared a major.</p>

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<p>Is the social life at this school really as bad as this article makes it seem?? Just wondering....</p>

<p>I knew Tufts wouldn't be a big drinking school, I don't know who exactly Elad was talking to. But the wealth of hungover people on my floor seems to be evidence to the contrary.....
I also chose Tufts because I didn't want a big sports school.
Honestly, I'm wondering if he looked into Tufts that much before he came. He sounds a little bitter about it...</p>

<p>Tufts is not USC or Texas A&M or wherever Animal House is supposed to be at. When I feel like going to a party, there is one. More than a few, actually. And when I just want to chill out with friends, I can do that, too. I think the social life here is ideal -- no pressure to always go out, but you can always go out. Plus, there's Boston, and the other 85 schools in the metropolitan area. And once you turn 21, a whole new world opens up to you in terms of bars, jazz clubs, etc. I looked the author of this article up on Facebook.com, and he has like 500 friends at Tufts alone. Seems to me, this article might have been written during a bad spell during his career here at Tufts; because he seems to be doing just fine. Honestly, as long as you have a few good people you want to go hang out with, that you connect with, there's no such thing as a bad school to be at, socially.</p>

<p>I view it as a positive that the article confirms that Tufts is not an Animal House type school. There are far more Animal House type schools to choose from than places that have academically-focused students who are a little more mature about their college life freedoms and their futures.</p>

<p>The Animal House writers atttended Dartmouth and the material is based on their experience there in the 1960s.</p>

<p>2 more random questions...</p>

<p>1) Is there a common path people take who want to become lawyers after college? (is there a common major other than poli sci)</p>

<p>2) In general, are the girls at tufts generally regarded as being "attractive" ?</p>

<p>As a parent of a S. interested in Tufts, it's pretty obvious that I would agree with WS17. Plenty of social, fun-loving kids are not looking for Animal House. Also, as someone who did attend a notorious "work hard/play hard" school (albeit many years ago) I think there are many who would agree that the hard-drinking party scene that seemed so exhilarating freshman year gets a little stale by the following year or so, and by the time you're a junior or senior can even seem pretty silly. By that time, a student is probably more apt to appreciate school sponsored events and smaller parties with friends, both of which sound easy to find at Tufts.<br>
Sorry to previous poster with new question - I just had to add my 2 cents, didn't mean to highjack thread!</p>

<p>As an alum, my experiences are a little outdated. </p>

<p>NY Yankees:
1) No common path. A handful of the engineering students apply to law school every year; liberal arts is very well-represented. Have a talk with the pre-law advisor (she's wonderful) if you want more info. You can really take any major you want. Some 250 Jumbos apply every year.</p>

<p>Philosophy, econ, English, IR, foreign languages, psych are all good majors for law school, if there is such a thing. </p>

<p>2) My info is outdated. As one of said females, I would like to say yes, but, using myself as a data point, the answer is "no, not really." ;)</p>

<p>1) Agree w/ Ariesathena. No common path. There's really no common path to any career, in terms of what you do as an undergraduate. I have a friend who studied classical opera and is now a management consultant. Another who studied English and now works in a hedge fund. My best friend who graduated last year with a BFA in painting and BA in curatorial arts is now at Stanford Law.</p>

<p>2) I'd say that the Tufts campus is moderately good-looking. The people at Tufts cover the whoel spectrum, from wickedly good looking to not good looking at all. And most fall in the middle. But we're all smart. :-)</p>

<p>Alright thanks...it seems like Tufts is a pretty easy place to fit into</p>

<p>It is. Plus it's really laid back.</p>

<p>I think the guy in Elad's interview who was like "ARGH THE FREAKIN SHUTTLE BLARGH SO COLD OUT" was kind of funny. I mean, your social life will give you whatever you put into it. Buy a winter coat. The walk to Davis from downhill is seven-ten minutes, and the T will come within 5 minutes usually. And a 25 minute ride takes you like past South Station - before that you can get off and find **** to do at Harvard, Central, Kendall, Charles, Park, Downtown Crossing, and that's just the red line. Plenty of people go to Govt Center and whatever. Last year I was lazy and wouldn't feel like going out, but this year we realized that we didn't take advantage of Boston nearly and enough and have been rectifying this by going to places we haven't been, like Newbury Street and Kendall, comedy clubs, etc. But I also agree that it just depends on whom you're with. I can have much more fun staying in with my really good friends and playing Super Nintendo, rather than going to a frat.</p>

<p>And yeah, if people want to get drunk, they get drunk. They get their vodka, they pregame, they have theme parties in the room, whatever. And it doesn't ALWAYS fade junior/senior year - I just went to a house party at a senior's house and they talked about how they got drunk and stoned around five times a week still. (not necessarily healthy...but, I mean, if that's what you're looking for, haha). I don't really drink and I still have an awesome time, and I don't feel like there's a pressure to drink at all. But don't expect to find really AWESOME frat parties, those are kind of in short supply lol.</p>

<p>I wrote a long response to nyyankees, sam, lola, etc, and it was all lost. In short, I am not a bitter student, I have made some great friends here because Tufts students are truly amazing and unique, and I certainly researched Tufts before I came here and stayed over. </p>

<p>However, I still hold by what I wrote in that article. If you read the whole thing rather than take certain sentences out of context, you will realize that I mention some of the positives that Tufts offers (its global outlook, academics such as IR/Community Health/graduate programs), but I believe that the party scene here is severely lacking from a qualitative and not quantitative standpoint, especially for freshmen/sophomores. </p>

<p>The Greek system is almost defunct, the police have been cracking down, parties get overcrowded, etc. This is a fact. That does not mean that some parties aren't fun, that the "social life" here in general stinks - in fact, as was pointed out through the use of facebook, there are lots of friends to be made here and if you want to drink or socialize with people you definitely can. Again, drinking is not the only thing that constitutes a social life. In terms of that expectation, I would say that although Tufts students probably drink as much as most other college students at other universities, the opportunities to do so on campus are still abundant yet are not what I expected before I came here.</p>

<p>I have gotten a lot out of my Tufts experience academically, socially, etc. However, I was just stating my opinion on the lack of a "healthy" party life that one may expect at a university like Tufts. </p>

<p>My article should not discourage you from coming to Tufts, but it should make you think about what you truly want to get out of your college experience.</p>

<p>Hey thanks a lot for the response Elad. </p>

<p>As long as the school has a good balance between academics/social life itll be cool. I don't need Animal House necessarily lol</p>