<p>Those are both good suggestions. He would like to visit Rhodes, Emory, or Davidson - but probably won't unless admitted and even for Trinity (Tx) - which is a cheper plane ticket, we don't know anyone there, and the trip would require two nights. He'll have to give choices more serious thought and then choose - we can swing one trip.
mafool - did your S visit Duke before acceptance?
Thanks for the suggestions!</p>
<p>Yes. S visited Duke on a swing through the south: our now semi-famous 5 schools, 3 states, one week tour. (really 10 days over jr. year spring break) He liked it well enough to apply. The students and staff were wonderfully open and friendly. Then, after he was accepted, we went to a weekend for accepted seniors, at which time he spent a night in a dorm.</p>
<p>ojr-
Check your pm file.
Mafool</p>
<p>How about University of Redlands? I don't know about their aid, but they are on the west coast, are less well known, and have a good soccer team.</p>
<p>I agree with mini way back on page on of these posts, unless he is on Stanford's athletic radar, I think it is best to do multiple open EAs and apply RD to Stanford. You get an answer early, or even multiple answers early and can focus on school and senior year starting in mid-December. A lot changes between mid-December and the end of the school year.</p>
<p>Someone posted about the catholic colleges. I know BC and ND both provide for 100% of financial need (whatever that is). Santa Clara University provide good aid and merit money for students with the right stats. Villanova has a merit program, but according to USNews only provides for 82% of financial need. I bring up Santa Clara and Villanova because they seem to be the right size and his stats would put him in the upper ranges of those schools. Both are open EA.</p>
<p>If his heart is set on Stanford SCEA, he could also apply to USC (though it is big and in a city and has a significant frat scene) by their scholarship deadline and not violate Stanford's SCEA policy. If he is in the running for a large scholarship at USC he will know it by Feb 1.</p>
<p>ojr, are you trying to play matchmaker with curmudgeon's daughter?</p>
<p>I just read your requiremtnts: "We'd rather see if we can find a financial safety of 5K kids or less with a nice pool of sporty intellectuals who don't drink too much." Notre Dame isn't too far off. (Although it's not a safety for anyone.) It's not much bigger undergrad than Stanford (about 8400.) No Greeks. People say that studying is intense during the week, so drinking is pushed off until weekends for the most part. Very sporty, with huge intramural involvement, not just the national championship contending treams. They love athletic kids & 39% of the kids were captains of at least one h.s. varsity sport. </p>
<p>If your son gets his SATs up, you'd have a good shot. Midrange is 1340--1470. Midrange class rank is 1-6%. Not many west coasters attend ND, so that would look appealing to admissions. They meet 100% of need. No merit aid. If your son attended ND, he could quietly root for Stanford.</p>
<p>orjr: Forgot about the community service. ND goes crazy for that. And they expect the students to continue service throughout their college years (and their lifetimes.) Thousands of hours with HfH will catch their eye.</p>
<p>My niece is enjoying her 1st year at ND, but says it takes some adjustment (they don't make rice like HI). It's an awesome school but they have their own culture, which takes some adjustment.</p>
<p>ND is open EA also. However, based upon your requirements, it would be a little big.</p>
<p>Additionally, there is a small honors program at ND. Kind of like a Williams College within ND. Seminars for the first year students of up to 16 students. The typical survey Philosophy class would have 100+ students. The requiremetns to qualify is you need to be asked by the school. They take about 60 incoming student our of 1000 that intend to study in the school of arts and letters or science. For more see:</p>
<p><a href="http://glynnhonors.nd.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://glynnhonors.nd.edu/</a></p>
<p>The problem for the OP is that her son's stats are at the low end of the midrange. Without some hook, he might have trouble getting in at all, never mind the honors program. The 100 kids who qualify for this Glynn program must meet these stats:</p>
<p>Profile of a Glynn Scholar
Class Rank: Top 1-2 % of high school class
SAT range (Math and Critical Reading): 1500-1600
ACT range (Combined): 34-36
"Numbers” alone do not qualify students to be designated a Glynn Scholar. Glynn Scholars also demonstrate extraordinary intellectual accomplishment and talent for doing challenging work in both the humanities and sciences.</p>
<p>SS,</p>
<p>Yes, I understand, however, if this student has a chance to get in to Stanford they may have a chance to get in to the honors program at ND. However, the OPs stats as currently posted are on the low side for Stanford and the ND honors program.</p>
<p>You are all so wonderful! Thanks for all the suggestions. Update: Stanford SCEA is out, Williams is maybe rather than sure app. - due to the drinking thing, and that leaves for sure apps: Stanford, Emory, CMC,Trinity,Whitman and maybes: Davidson, Rhodes, Whitworth, Lewis and Clark, Westmont.
Has an overnight and coach meeting set for Whitman in a couple of weeks. My biggest fear as a mom is that he'll love it, get in, and not be able to afford to go. That's the saddest kind of envelope to get :(</p>
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