<p>I really can't decide between these two schools. I'm going to be a business major and I was accepted direct admit to Kelley, invited into the Hutton Honors College, and given a scholarship for IU. But in the beginning of the year I planned on going to UMich if I got in because their business program is supposedly really great, plus I visited the school before and really liked the campus. Now I really don't know what I want and would really love (and need) some advice! Thanks!</p>
<p>A lot of people on here are deciding between the two, but our situations are different. We got differed from UMich (still waiting) and accepted to IU. In your case, if you were accepted to UMich, I say go there. Overall its a better school than Indiana and for business you can do economics in LSA or try and get into Ross, but either way its better. For most people IU is the backup for UMich. Congrats BTW.</p>
<p>thanks for your input, actually i have since decided its between bentley in boston, which we just returned from and was so impressed especially with all the recent major changes, bulidings,etc..........amazing trading floor! Its only a business school but great environment, or the other option is IU. IU is absolutely going to be a much higher ranked school next year, due to the sheer volume of apps. and stats of those accepted. I am planning a visit there within the next week and will then make a decision. I know Mich. is a great school but its not for me in many respects. Best of luck to you!</p>
<p>"IU is absolutely going to be a much higher ranked school next year, due to the sheer volume of apps. and stats of those accepted. "</p>
<p>I've been reading a lot about this on the forum. Has there been anything to corroborate this or are ppl assuming this simply because an admissions counselor told them so? </p>
<p>How high do you guys think the school is going to jump, in particular business?</p>
<p>Don't expect much of a jump in USNWR because of how they do their rankings, their methodology doesn't help IU much. Hopefully they can get out of the 70s and into the low 60s.</p>
<p>I don't understand how their business isn't ranked higher currently. They are top 15 in nearly every major department. It's ridiculous putting them at #10.</p>
<p>Go to UMich. I've visited both schools and if you are looking for the best academics, Michigan is much more impressive then IU. </p>
<p>The only reason to go to IU over Umich is that the girls at IU are much more attractive. I'm not saying the girls at Umich are ugly, it's just the girls at IU blew me away. </p>
<p>The average student at Michigan is smarter and much more driven then all but the best at IU.</p>
<p>heh while williamhd does have a point about the average umich student being smarter than the average IU student, dont mean IU is crappy or filled with retards. in terms of quality of academics, i tink IU is similar to Umich but i guess if we're talking about business and job oppurtunities, obviously michigan is gonna be better. about the rankings, IU probaly will probaly go lower a bit but i wouldnt say too much, its still too early to tell i mean the influx of applications for IU just started this year and im sure all schools had an increase in applications; whats really gonna make IU go up in the rankings is gona probaly depend on the class of 2010 and future classes, whether they do gud or not and graduate properly.</p>
<p>Also consider that because Michigan has brighter students, that means it will likely be harder to achieve a high GPA, something very important for grad school admissions, if you have intentions of going to grad school (seems like you do, going into business). </p>
<p>Indiana would be cheaper if you're going to grad school, and it's your grad school degree that will be looked at. If you don't have financial aid, getting that scholarship, tution's probably around 15K cheaper for you there. And I would argue that the top 10% of the students at Indiana are around the average students at Michigan, so it's not too big of a drop off between Michigan and Indiana's B-School/Honors students.</p>
<p>thanks all for your opinoins, i just got back from IU and have already visited Michigan and I liked and preferred IU hands down. Michigans dorms were HORRIBLE and IUS were quite nice, especially the one i got into, collins. Academics, frankly I think they are on par and if there is a difference its not tremendous enough to make a difference, remember I will liekly be going into the Kelly business program which comparisons aside is very highly regarded and ranked like #11, I have no problem with that. Everyone sees what appeals to them and there are other personal reasons Michigan is not for me, I don't discount that its an excellent school, just not for me. At this point its between IU, Bentley and GW if I should get in off the waitlist, still waiting to hear from UCSD. another possible contender should i get accpeted, good luck to all of you!</p>
<p>RATM actually my college advisor spoke to me and cited an article in one of the educational magaznies for teachers about IU'S huge jump in applications and overall stats of those accepted. She says she expects based on the article to see a big surge for IU next year and a continuing trend of high app. numbers..........</p>
<p>kellyconn1 u applied to SD? heh they dont have a business major isntead students major in communications. which college within SD did u apply to? i got into Muir</p>
<p>Umich for business is much better than they Kelley School of Business. Although you can make the most of both programs and being in the honors college can help strengthen that IU degree in the business world.</p>
<p>Think there is anyway in the next couple of years for IU to atleast get on the level of UIUC, or atleast maybe in the low 50's?</p>
<p>Indiana is currently too easy to get into to raise in overall rankings. I know kids from my school that got in with act's at 19 & 21. UIUC is getting harder and harder to get into - business and engineering programs keep getting better. Most of the kids from my school that applied to business were not accepted at Uof I.
Indiana's campus is my nicer than Illinois - my brother goes there and he loves it there.</p>
<p>If you look at the USNW ratings and how they are computed you will see that the peer rating for Indiana is 3.7 versus other schools around 3.3 who are in the 70s (like Indiana is). The problem in a nutshell is that the school is too easy to get into (83% acceptance, 23% in top tenth of class) to get a higher ranking, and has an average SAT score (25/75) of 990-1220, which is quite low. </p>
<p>Look at some other schools and why they rank higher--take Pitt for example--their peer rating is 3.4 (versus Indiana's 3.7), yet they rank 58th (versus Indiana's 74th) because their acceptance rate is 49%, 46% of the incoming class is in top 10th of their high school class and the average SAT scores (25/75) are 1120-1330.</p>
<p>So Indiana--if they want to rank higher--has three choices. (1) make their school more appealling to Indiana students who have higher SATs/ACTs and GPAs, and less attractive to those with lower SATs/ACTs and GPAs, (2) admit more out-of-state students (those who have higher test scores/GPAs) or (3) admit more students as transfers--allowing them to be more selective with the freshman and sophomores they do accept. </p>
<p>I think they are willing to do (1), but are unlikely to do (2) or (3) since they are the flagship university in the state and the state provides all their funding. This means they can go up a little in the rankings, but probably not a lot.</p>
<p>Translation: They are probably one of the top universities in the midwest--but getting people from the coasts (or large cities) to accept that it's worth leaving the coasts or an urban environment to go there (to a rural environment) seems to be a hard sell. And getting the top students in the state to make them the #1 college choice (over places like Michigan, California or east coast schools) also seems a hard sell.</p>