<p>Is it impossible for an international student to get into an Ivy?
I mean English is not our native language, there is no way we can score high on SAT (Since scoring high on TOFEL doesnt really mean anything).
And how in the hell can u possibiliy participate in EC when your english is not good and feel like an outcast (I live in the US for three years).
I am a senior in high school and I feel very odd when compare to all those native speakers with top grades and full of ECs.
Everyone tells me that its impossible for me to get accepted in UPenn, but its my dream......
I tried the very best to get good grades and take APs, but ....its still only 3.7...I'm totally sad</p>
<p>Lots of International students get into Ivy. Ok not lots but yes a few do. If your countries language is not english Admission Officers would understand.</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>Do any of you have some examples?</p>
<p>Scroll up and there is a search feature on the board. Use it! :)</p>
<p>Penn has about 15 % international students.... All of them were accepted, obviously</p>
<p>wait a sec you have been in the US for 3 years? And you are posting such ridiculous questions? And the future is in the hands of us teenagers... wow</p>
<p>Wait, I dont really understand your sarcasm....
I did work very hard to blend in and did my best and take the hardest classes I can.
And I am a President of a club.</p>
<p>But is this enough?
Being in the hardest classes doesn't mean you are the best student in those classes.
I mean, Ivys only accept the best of the best, right?</p>
<p>Just go for it. Statistically, you don't have much of a chance, but neither does anyone else. Just keep trying hard, and apply!</p>
<p>after living 3 years in the states, ur english should be good enough to apply to any college there!</p>
<p>ummh are u a US resident/citizen? cuz if so, u don't count as an intern. applicant.</p>
<p>Just apply to Upenn, do ur best, and u'll see what happens!.. </p>
<p>btw, there are many intern. students here (not me, of course) who have scored 800 on the SAT CR section! it's not neccesary to be a native speaker to score high on it! </p>
<p>if u don't mind saying, where are u from?</p>
<p>I'm from Taiwan.</p>
<p>My first SAT was a long time ago, I got a 1570 without preparing. My mom wants to see how I can score without any help from others.</p>
<p>Over the summer I spend most of my time studing SAT, even now when I have three more AP classes in school I still spend most of my time on SAT wishing I can do better.</p>
<p>Honestly, non of my parents think I will get in, the same with most of the college consultants outside school. This is why I am seeking encouragements....</p>
<p>My teachers that is writing my rec. seem hopeful though......</p>
<p>I'm an international student from Sweden and a freshman at Dartmouth. I've lived in the United States for six years, and English is my third language, after Swedish and French. In high school, I was heavily involved with the student newspaper (writing, editing, and photography) and Amnesty International, volunteered at a hospital, took [url="<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameliasinensis/%22%5Dphotography%5B/url">http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameliasinensis/"]photography[/url</a>] courses at a local darkroom, and worked as a riding instructor, among other things. My SAT score was 2270 (800 reading, 760 math, 710 writing); my grades were respectable but not stratospheric. </p>
<p>I'm not saying it's easy, but it's certainly not impossible.</p>
<p>there are lots of asian kids scoring high in SAT.you just need to work hard on it</p>
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Lots of International students get into Ivy. Ok not lots but yes a few do. If your countries language is not english Admission Officers would understand.
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<p>Hmm, only three people get into Ivys every 5 years at our school</p>
<p>I don't mean to be an a-hole or anything but before thinking about applying to Ivies, maybe you should work on your writing skills a bit more. From what I can read on this thread, your english seems a bit average, and most international ivy-wannabies can speak and write perfect English. In fact, it sometimes appears they are even better at it than domestic applicants.</p>
<p>Thanks,
I'm glad to be average.</p>
<p>Wait, so you think i can forget it?</p>
<p>I don't think so. I'm a student from China, with low SATs and few ECs, but I sill think I should apply ivies.</p>
<p>The important thing is what you'll become, not what you are now.</p>
<p>I think we should remember the dreams in our heart.</p>
<p>But at the same time, one must remain realistic!</p>
<p>Well, I don't want to argue, it's not my business. I think to be realistic is not to analysis one's possible destiny with great emphasis on calculating details, instead showing one's real nature in his or her's applications is realistic. I don't think realistic means you knows the range what you can, and what you can't reach. Instead, realistic means you can judge your dreams properly, of things related to your future. If you have done so, to choose a college is not a hard task. </p>
<p>So I think Paddy deserved to go Upenn, if he is determined to do so.</p>