<p>Hi every one i got accepted into both schools, with full ride scholarships. I don't know which one to chose. I will be majoring in Biochemistry, and will be on the pre-med track. Which school would be overall better for me. ( this includes college atmosphere, campus life, food, dorms, city itself, academics of course, the people, best research opportunity) just which is overall better. Thanks in advance for everyone's help</p>
<p>Is one significantly less expensive than the other? Medical school is expensive, and biology and chemistry majors do not have very good job and career prospects if not going to medical school, so saving your money and avoiding or minimizing debt are important in your decision.</p>
<p>It is not required to major in biology or chemistry to do pre-med.</p>
<p>I have a full ride to both so money really isnt an option. And yeah i do plan on going to medical school.</p>
<p>Remember that getting into MD medical school in the US is difficult, and there are no real “safety” MD medical schools in the US like there are “safety” undergraduate universities for many students. Only about half of applicants to MD medical schools in the US get into any medical school.</p>
<p>Full ride for undergraduate is a good thing to have.</p>
<p>im talking about which school would be best for me to do undergrad</p>
<p>I would pick JHU; they both have great med programs but JHU is extremely famous for its program, and Cornell is kinda in the middle of nowhere…JHU is at least in Baltimore haha 
Several of my friends have gone to JHU and love the atmosphere, but it’s really up to you! Have you visited the universities? It’ll help you get a sense of what it’s like to go there :)</p>
<p>Cornell is paying for me to go visit the campus for two days, but i wont be able to go visit Hopkins tho. And i hear alot of mixed things for both schools</p>
<p>From what I’ve heard, people are generally more impressed and more excited to go to JHU than Cornell. JHU is also veeeeerrryy well known for its med program - one of the best universities to be pre-med at apparently, while Cornell doesn’t really get as much hype imo. One of my close friends currently attends JHU and LOVES it, says that Baltimore is great and fun and a lot of other great university towns are a short distance away (relatively short at least). Definitely see how comfortable you feel at Cornell but in general JHU seems like the better choice. Congrats on full rides though, that’s amazing!</p>
<p>Both are great schools so you can’t make a serious mistake. Academically, they are peers and it’s a wash. Both are known to be challenging, rather difficult schools (BTW, I think that is good;some of the other ivys are too easy).</p>
<p>Now for the differences. Cornell is big. Very big. And it feels very big (walk from one end of campus to the other and see how long it takes. In comparison, Hopkins is small (@4800 undergraduates). You can walk anywhere on campus in 15 minutes.</p>
<p>The campus. Hopkins is beautiful and the buildings are of uniformly high quality. Cornell also has beautiful parts, but other parts not so much. Basically, the Cornell campus reflects the hybrid school that it is. The buildings related to arts &sciences look like the private Ivy League school that that it is. But the parts of the school related to the “Contract Schools” are not nearly as nice and look like a big, public institution (which they essentially are). No one at Hopkins is studying agriculture, hotel management, or industrial and labor relations.</p>
<p>The town. Baltimore is a big city with everything that entails, good and bad. It is also on the Northeast Corridor just an hour from DC and less than 2 from Philly. NYC is 3 hours. Ithaca is a nice small city in the Finger Lakes region. It is great for outdoor stuff (weather permitting-it is much colder and snowier than Baltimore). But it is not near anything else. And it is particularly far from Cornell’s medical campus which is in NYC. At Hopkins, you are 15minutes from the medical campus.</p>
<p>Of prime importance of course, they both have great lacrosse teams and are long time rivals. But Hopkins is #1 right now. They might face each other for the national championship on Memorial Day.</p>
<p>Good luck with your choice</p>
<p>thanks to all of you so far its really helping</p>
<p>Are the typical Cornell students different than JHU students?</p>
<p>If the comparison is limited to students of Arts & Sciences plus Engineering, then the answer is no, they are not much different. Hopkins has a somewhat higher percentage of students studying the sciences or engineering.</p>
<p>We’re in Virginia. The people we know who are at JHU or have graduated often don’t speak well of it. One graduate told us he was robbed a couple of times. It’s not in a great part of town. I’ve really never heard anything positive about how happy people are or if they enjoy it. The academics are stellar, that cannot be denied.</p>
<p>Cornell kids are varied. Ithaca is sufficient as a college town. I hear a lot more positive from people here. One of our friends takes his family there every summer. People seem more loyal once they’ve graduated. Amazing science/engineering academic experience.</p>
<p>^if you were to compare student and alumni donation rates (percentage participating not amount donated), JHU has a higher rate than Cornell. That should speak to satisfaction comparisons.</p>
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<p>Cornell Alum here. Loved the school, Loved Ithaca.</p>
<p>Ok, to be honest – the academics are probably equal (or at leas close enough to equal as to not make a difference). </p>
<p>It really depends on whether you want to be in a small school in a city or a medium-large school in the country. In Cornell’s favor – because it as 7 undergraduate colleges, I think you will find an unparallelled breadth and depth of academic diversity. It’s really a great place.</p>
<p>If you’re comparing pre-med between the schools, I would say JHU. Cornell’s tough grading curve makes it very competitive and I’ve generally heard it’s pretty tough for pre-med. JHU has a reputable pre-med program and I’ve heard it’s rather collaborative even though it’s a tough workload.</p>
<p>That seems to imply JHU doesn’t have a tough grading curve, when in fact its average GPA is lower than Cornell’s.</p>
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Most college grads can count on getting a fundraising call from a phone bank staffed by students (a cushy on-campus job) once a year or so. A college that wants an impressive donation rate (perhaps because its a factor in the US News ranking) can do so with a hard sell. “You don’t want to donate? How about $10? Can I put you down for just $5? Even $2 today will help us out.” At some point most people give in just to get the pesky caller off the phone without being rude to a student at their alma mater and just hanging up. A college that wants an impressive donation rate because its factored into the US News ranking can easily do so.</p>
<p>College grads are aware of all this; most HS students are not. For someone to cite donation rates as implying anything other than how aggressively the school chooses to pursue donations should be a red flag for any HS student looking for helpful advice.</p>
<p>“College grads are aware of all this; most HS students are not. For someone to cite donation rates as implying anything other than how aggressively the school chooses to pursue donations should be a red flag for any HS student looking for helpful advice.”</p>
<p>If you actually knew anything about fundraising, you’d know colleges reserve their real hard sales for the large donors during the galas for big time drives (here’ some insight : undergrads manning the phones don’t care or push hard for a donation - they are just calling as a job). If you don’t care about your school to give a single dollar, that should speak volumes to how much you cared or enjoyed the experience. Often, students won’t hesitate to donate money on behalf of their major’s department or some on-campus club they were involved with.</p>