<p>I am direct admit to Kelley. The only significant current academic weakness I have is in math. I know that you have to either take Finite Math or Calculus as a prerequisite for a degree. I was wondering if I could get opinions from students or other people who know, which is the better class for the math challenged (me) and since it is a intro required class are they large and difficult? Thanks.</p>
<p>Bad news: you take both. They are pretty small: my finite class had about 50, don't know about calc since i did that in hs, but I'm assuming it's also pretty small. finite isn't too bad, mostly probability and the calc class is only "Intro to calc" so it's pretty easy compared to calc in hs.</p>
<p>The professor you get makes a big difference. Some professors don't speak that clear of english, so be careful who you take.</p>
<p>take dabrowski for finite</p>
<p>Zippo:</p>
<p>I orginally thought you had to take both, but on the Kelley admissions website it says this:</p>
<p>Completion of three or more of the following courses with a minimum grade of C:</p>
<ul>
<li> MATH M118 Finite Mathematics</li>
<li> MATH M119 Brief Survey of Calculus</li>
<li> BUS K201 The Computer in Business.</li>
<li> BUS X100 Introduction to Business Administration
OR</li>
<li> BUS G100 Business in the Information Age
(only one of these courses</li>
</ul>
<p>What you are reading is for people who will have to apply to Kelley. They must complete 3 or more in order to be eligible to apply. You are a DA so you don't have to worry about that, however in order to take I-CORE Junior year, M118 and M119 must be take and passed with a C or better.</p>
<p>Haha, darn. Thanks. Any recommendations for a good and/or easy calculus professor then?</p>
<p>Sorry I didn't have to take Calc so I can't help with that.</p>
<p>My son is taking it with Jeremy Bogess right now. He says he's pretty good, and works well with the students. However, having said that, he's only getting a B or B+ in the class right now--and he took IB Calculus his senior year in high school already, and had a 700 on the math portion of the SAT test. From what I can tell after looking at the book (online), it's a real "applied calculus" course, specializing in applying the math to economics, business, and scientific uses. My guess is the people who take this course early will do better in Microeconomics or Physics than those who take those courses without having first been in this "Survey of Calculus" class.</p>
<p>P.S. Steve McKinley is supposed to be the best at teaching this course.</p>
<p>Yes, I have heard only great things about Steve McKinley. In fact, if you take finite and are like me, you will become a regular watcher of "The Finite Show" hosted by Steve McKinley where he walks you through problems. If I had to take another math class and Steve taught it, I would def. take his class.</p>
<p>However, I'm not sure if Steve teaches Calc, maybe someone else would know. I just know he teaches Finite and a few upper level classes.</p>
<p>i took professor McKinley - who is awesome by the way - for m118 and he is a great teacher who does everything he can to not only get you to learn the stuff but also helps students get an A (got a recommendation from him for an internship as well as for scholarships). I've talked to him a couple of times and this semester he mentioned that he was teaching some upper-level statistics courses. He also does teach calc. occasionally.</p>
<p>My son had Prof. Tsyganov in the first semester and got an A in finite math, so you might want to ask others about him, too.</p>
<p>And there's always the Rate My Professor site you can check out to see how previous students rank them.</p>
<p>About Rate My Professor.... I hope students take what they read there with a gigantic grain of salt. The students that post are only a tiny fraction of the students who take the courses. As a professor, I can tell you that the posts that refer to my teaching there are totally unrepresentative of my overall course evaluations - much worse than the anonymous course evaluations administered by the university. One would think I was a terrible teacher, when in fact my typical evaluations are about 3.5/4 in most courses, usually higher for upper level courses.</p>
<p>I would somewhat agree with indybend. A lot of students who receive bad grades go there just to bash to professor. However, you will find some truth to some postings and some of them are helpful.</p>
<p>Take Dabrowski for Finite. I went to 7 classes (3 exams) and got a B. Easy.</p>
<p>Anyways, you can check what professors give out what grades through the Grade Distribution tab on iub.edu/student</p>
<p>yeah, dabrowski was pretty good/easy. gets distracted really easy.</p>