<p>FSU is a better school than UF - but it depends on the program. </p>
<p>UF is a better school than FSU - but it depends on the program.</p>
<p>Right now, UF has done a better job at garnering national ratings than FSU. FSU will not rest, though, so enjoy it while it lasts. It doesn't make much difference anyway - a graduate from either will do fine if they work hard.</p>
<p>Both are going to be limited nationally due to the weak funding from the state of Florida. UF may well be at or near the peak, time will tell.</p>
<p>Well, I do know that UF beats FSU's programs majority-wise. Only time will tell? Also, enjoy it while it lasts? I doubt FSU will catch up 63 spots to catch up with UF any time soon. Wait let me take that back, never perhaps? At least with the upward trend of incoming freshman at UF and the new bio field opening.</p>
<p>If you consider the history of the two schools my statement is not remarkable at all. </p>
<p>For example, Florida State has the 'Alpha' chapter of Phi Beta Kappa. It took UF four years to get 'Beta'. This was in the 1930s, as I recall.</p>
<p>When UF received the Engineering school and the Medical school, (1958?) they began to attract the more ambitious students, once those programs matured. This is why they're 'ahead' if you want to call it that, now. It wasn't until 2000 that FSU finally received a College of Medicine. That program must now mature. Ditto the FSU Engineering program. It's interesting to note that each magnet-type program (e.g. Med and Engineering) FSU receives is partially hamstrung in some way, probably by UF alumni fearing competition from FSU, making the way much harder for Florida State. The playing field has not been level. </p>
<p>Now it's FSU's turn to play catch up.</p>
<p>I would suggest that UF's use of the year '1853' as opposed to 1905, when it was formed, was an effort to compete with FSU's use of '1851' before the Buckman Act of 1905. FSU fairly recently re-adopted the use of 1851, which was used before 1905, as the date of formation.</p>
<p>FSU has been the only school to be in continous use, in the same location, from the beginning. It can even trace roots back to 1843, when it absorbed another school in Tallahassee. It's the only school in Florida so old. </p>
<p>So frankly, I'd not be too bold in claiming there will be no competition ahead. I guarantee it will be there.</p>
<p>Wow who cares how old a school is. Its not a relevant argument to the point im trying to make. I agree that when FSU matures it's medical school it will boost up. Do I think it will boost up dramatically? Probably not. Think about it, why would someone ambitious want to go to FSU over UF. If my logic is right, then we will consistently get the better freshman. Answer me one question, 100 years from now, where do you see FSU and where do you see UF?</p>
<p>In 100 years I don't have a clue, except the fact the state may resemble California to some degree. The coast will have more people than the interior. Without air conditioning, the population would be cut by maybe 70%.</p>
<p>Consider where Florida was 100 years ago and they had none but the murkiest image of the future. Gainesville was correctly known as 'Hogtown' for it's produce of pork. Tallahassee was still the state capital. Thomas Jefferson's grandson's dream of a university in Tallahassee was coming true. The Florida State football team, 1905 state champions, was forced to go to UF. The 'F' club, started at Florida State, was adopted by UF as it's own.</p>
<p>Despite the your apparent disregard for history makes it no less true.</p>
<p>The age of a university does make a difference; why did UF for years claim to be the 'oldest' university in Florida? Only recently has that been challenged and proven false. They did it to establish credibility.</p>
<p>Wow. </p>
<p>I believe that history does not convey how good a school is. Stop changing the subject when I asked you where would the schools be 100 years from now, you started talking about the past and how UF claims its older than FSU and how the coast will be like california. </p>
<p>Stick to the topic.
Will FSU ever be better than UF?</p>
<p>You may want to ask Nostradamus.</p>
<p>Nah, I think nostradamus is a fake, like David Blaine but with mental prediction. </p>
<p>I only ask parent2nole because she seems to KNOW that we fear FSU and im wondering why. Because we are about to be passed?</p>
<p>Do you go to UF? Or are you an alum?</p>
<p>No I do not go to UF but I plan to. And also im pretty sure im going to get in even though my scores are low because im applying as a transfer with a high college gpa and also a somewhat high high school gpa. Anways my family heritage to UF goes back since it was created. I still have no favorite when rating a school.</p>
<p>Also just to add something, I also have stellar ec's that will make up for my low scores and im in-state and legacy.</p>
<p>OK. You used the term "we" when referring to UF, so I assumed you must be one or the other. Good luck.</p>
<p>not true. Im neither. I could be saying "we" as a prediction of me getting admitted. I also consider UF "my school" just like if a argument came up in football and I said "UF is better than FSU in football" you might respond "We have a 20-0 record!" even if your not a alumni or student. Catch my drift?</p>
<p>I'm not arguing, just wondering aloud. My wife's father and brother's do the same thing, and they've never attended one class in Hogtown. I affectionately refer to them as "friends of the program." UF has been around a long time, so there are a lot of people just like them throughout Florida.</p>
<p>We already know both schools are good. You said so yourself. I said UF will face competition from Florida State and that FSU must catch up for now.</p>
<p>Why is this difficult to accept?</p>
<p>What makes you think I'm female?</p>
<p>because mostly moms go on college confidential.</p>
<p>Incorrect assumptions can be dangerous - especially on the Internet. You never know who you've got on the other end. </p>
<p>In this case, you've got the father of two daughters. Just because someone's polite does not mean they're female.</p>
<p>I wouldnt say my assumption was DANGEROUS. Thats a little harsh lol.</p>
<p>I appreciate the suggestion; but I'm not arguing. :)</p>
<p>I do see that the conversation is at an end, though.</p>
<p>I've been thinking about where the various universities would be in the future. Suffice to say one event could change everything, like a patent of practical cold fusion for the generation electricity, for example. Or the development of another Taxol-type drug. Or a workable superconductor coating for power transmission lines. </p>
<p>There's no way to know.</p>
<p>Hey chances, Your posts kinda annoy me. FSU, I will admit, isnt a SPECTACULAR school......and neither is UF!!! If you are soo smart maybe you should take your chances applying out of state to an ivy instead of taking the easy way out and applying to UF knowing that you will get in bc of your florida residency AND legacy status. Until you do that, stop trashing decent honest people that are just trying to have a simple discussion about the admission stats of fsu! Thats just my two cents....</p>