<p>"No wonder the eating clubs are so controversial..........anyone with any sense of dignity would throw up all over the place."</p>
<p>LMAO!!</p>
<p>Uber, talking to you is impossible. All of your questions were answered in my earlier posts.
But to correct you for the upteenth time, I did not say GCs were recommending P. I suggested taking a look at their websites because I think we can all agree they probably have the most savy and well funded H.S. GC
operations. Do you also disagree with that?</p>
<p>If you look at what publications they recommend, its pretty much what I have been saying. You won't find The College Admission Game or the NBER study on their recommended lists. But if Princeton's not your cup of tea, by all means, you should consider other options.</p>
<p>lol uber because princeton was the last school to accept the common application (which it began this year), last school to begin an online application (which began this year) and the one of the last remaining top schools with the ED option. </p>
<p>i also must say yale and harvard have a much higher degree of prestige where many more people apply to those schools just to see if they can get in. princeton has a lot less of that =D</p>
<p>Shrek, Don't forget that Harvard and Yale have been quite active in sending out marketing materials to drum up apps. Princeton is still considering whether it wants to get into the marketing business.</p>
<p>I do agree that Harvard, Stanford, and Yale do get a lot more "joke applications" because of their prestige than Princeton, but that also means that HYS also get more top of the line applicants as well. You have to take both extreme ends of the curve into account. </p>
<p>alphacdcd: You never countered uber's argument as to why Princeton is suffering from a declining applicant pool and plummeting yield despite the fact that HYS are experiencing record number of applications. All the other ivies are also becoming increasingly popular whereas Princeton has remained stagnant.</p>
<p>college, If Princeton is stagnant why is it still #1 (year in year out) in everyone's selectivity polls/rankings??</p>
<p>Read my earlier posts above and you'll find my answers to uber's questions.
(haven't I said this already)</p>
<p>No you haven't countered it. All you do is say that you "already countered it," but alas you never did. Princeton's own dean of admissions, Rapeleye said that Princeton's applicant pool is declining and that Princeton admissions are "lean, very lean." </p>
<p>You never answered uber's question as to why less people are interested in Princeton. If you HAVE answered them, then humor me and cut/paste what you wrote. I think you will find this task impossible, because YOU NEVER ANSWERED it.</p>
<p>"Don't forget that Harvard and Yale have been quite active in sending out marketing materials to drum up apps. Princeton is still considering whether it wants to get into the marketing business."</p>
<p>Not true. I got the same amount of mail from Princeton and Harvard. Two pieces from each, one small letter, and one brochure/application. Ironically, I didn't get anything from Yale, my top choice, until I solicited it. But to be fair, I visited Yale in early summer and they might have sent me stuff without me asking for it anyway.</p>
<p>People spend so much time on this board quibbling about little prestige differences among the very top schools, HYPSMC, when the whole situation is very simple.</p>
<p>Nothing beats Harvard for pure, unadultured prestige. Yale and Stanford come close, but aren't quite there. Then comes Princeton. MIT and Caltech are funny; their prestige varies on the circle you're in, and your location. Honestly, I think the NBER stats have it, as far as prestige goes. </p>
<p>Prestige is not neccesarily a measure of quality. While Harvard rises above its competitors in terms of prestige, Harvard is not intrinsically better than YPSMC. I've said this a thousand times, but I'll say it again: once schools get as good as HYPSMC, small differences in prestige become irrelevant, and it comes down to personal preferences.</p>
<p>I give up. Good luck guys on where ever you end up.</p>
<p>It sounds like Princeton is the easiest of the HYP to get into. Is it by a little, or a lot, especially if you apply early to one of the three.</p>
<p>1.Harvard
2.Princeton
3.Yale
4.MIT
5.Stanford
6.Berekly
7.Brown
8.Columbie
9.Dartsmouth
10.Uva</p>
<p>I think Duke is incredibly overated if you look at statistics</p>
<p>1.Harvard
2.Yale
3.Princeton
4.Stanford
5.MIT*
6.CalTech*
GREAT VOID
7.Brown
8.Amherts/Dartmouth
9.Columbia
10.UPenn
...
54. Sara Lawrence/Sara Lee
55. Duke, aka DuPont U</p>
<p>*Niche Schools</p>
<p>ok mensa, I dare you to fill in those 43 schools that are better than Duke without looking completely ridiculous.</p>
<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
Dartmouth
Cornell
Columbia
Duke
Penn
Brown
Williams
Swarthmore
Berkeley</p>
<p>Harvard
Stanford/Yale
Princeton
MIT
Caltech
Columbia
Brown
Cornell
Dartmouth
Penn
Duke</p>
<p>Harvard/Yale/Princeton
cornell
columbia
dartmouth
penn
brown</p>
<p>
[quote]
55. Duke, aka DuPont U
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Do you know how ridiculous it is to rate a school based on a fictional story?</p>
<p>btw, EVERY school is DuPont U.</p>
<p>With this year's applicant pool increasing by 19% and a record number of apps received 2 years ago, Princeton again reigns supreme as the most selective school in America. Currently Princeton has (after ED) 15,706 apps outstanding to consider for 600 slots (3.7%). It seems like the college ranking guides (ranking undergrad programs) knew what they were talking about when they nearly all put P at #1. </p>
<p>Rankings</p>
<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>harvard</li>
<li>yale</li>
<li>mit</li>
<li>columbia</li>
<li>dartmouth
penn
stanford
caltech</li>
</ol>
<p>I can understand lesser five & top LACs not dropping their ED programs.. but Princeton is sissy for not doing SCEA.</p>
<p>It's clear that HY are the most selective of the big three, but what isn't clear is why pton appears to have slipped father behind Y in recent years. It seems to me that it is still a venerated name.</p>