<p>Alpha, you fail to mention that Princeton applications were also down BIGTIME last year. Overall Princeton applications are up 4% over its record high, other schools such as Harvard, Duke, Dartmouth, Georgetown are at higher levels compared to previous highs.</p>
<p>Yes, they were down from a RECORD high the year previous!</p>
<p>Bottom Line: Princeton receives more apps per slot than any other school in the U.S. (and its been that way for a while).</p>
<p>Some of you Princeton-slammers may have spoken a bit too soon in light of the 19% increase in applications for the Class of 2009, eh wot?</p>
<p>i thought more people applied to brown than princeton?
so if you guys care so much about App numbers, brown and some state schools are probably pretty high up there.</p>
<p>its not the number of applicants, its the number of applicants per opening (% selectivity,) that everyone is referring too</p>
<p>If "everyone" is referring to selectivity, they ought to be taking the <em>quality</em> of the applicant pool into account, don't you think, "doctorrobert"?</p>
<p>If X and Y are two similarly-sized colleges, and X receives 10,000 apps from people with a 1420 SAT median, and Y receives 11,000 apps from people with a 1350 median, then I'd look askance at any Y boasters and braggarts claiming that their school is "more selective."</p>
<p>Top Ten Private</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>NYU</li>
</ol>
<p>"byerly" (why quotes around names?) i was <em>agreeing</em> with you...
i was responding to kosukes assertion about the high number of state school applicants:
"so if u care about numbers...some state schools are pretty high up there"</p>
<p>looking back at the post, i should have been more clear: i consider applicant quality part of selectivity (i know most people/ranking systems dont, so i should have mentioned that, sry)</p>
<p>and by the way, for your abstract example byerly, an addition needs to be made: assume both schools accept the same amount of people</p>
<p>that said i agree with that too</p>
<p>texasmathwiz, nyu is pretty high there i think, its a great school and has one of the top business programs, among others, but how about something like...caltech? (probably higher than 10) since you are including mit
or stanford of course
(im not trying to correct, just throwing my opinion out there for input)</p>
<p>sorry for the numerous posts that could easily just be together...lol including this one</p>
<p>You are right! I forgot Caltech dangit!</p>
<p>Yeah that will change it, I heard their average SAT's are like 1540</p>
<p>Top Ten Private</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
</ol>
<p>There we go, by the way thanks for the polite correction, you don't usually get that around here.</p>
<p>ill give it a try...my list is the best!
1.harvard 2. yale 3 stanford 4 princeton 5 U penn 6 MIT 7 Duke 8 CIT 9Columbia
10 Brown 11 Umichigan 12 cornell 13berkely ......and so on</p>
<p>Princeton can't be number 4.</p>
<p>Top 15:
1. Harvard
2. MIT
3. Stanford
4. Princeton
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Johns Hopkins
8. Columbia
9. CalTech
10. Penn
11. Brown
12. Cornell
13. U Chicago
14. Berkeley
15. Dartmouth</p>
<p>I think you guys are weighting liberal arts too much, you should consider engineering and the sciences also.</p>
<p>so you're not considering LACs (SAW) at all?</p>
<p>lock12
u put u mich over cornell???
may i ask why
and overall guys i think columbia should be pretty high on prestige...higher than most of you place it at</p>
<p>The rankings above have too many agendas...A proper ranking which "rings true" is more like</p>
<p>Harvard
MIT
Princeton
Stanford/Yale
Cornell, Columbia
Dartmouth, Brown, Upenn
Berkeley, Duke
U-chig, Caltech, Northwestern (all good schools, but not known)
UCLA, UMAA (michigan-ann-arbor)
Georgetown, Emory, WUSTL
UCSD, William+Mary,
Other UCs, Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore (sorry, LACs are not a good as unis)</p>
<p>Science-oriented schools are always more prestigious than arts-schools....most of the Ivies are science+arts, so they obviously have an edge.</p>
<p>"(sorry, LACs are not a good as unis)"</p>
<p>that's your opinion, and i disagree with it. maybe if you had said "LACs are not as well known as unis" i would have been fine, but in no way can you make the statement that LACs are below everything else. you are a fool. you are also a fool for putting caltech so low on your list.
here's my list:</p>
<ol>
<li>MIT, Caltech, Stanford, every ivy, top LACs amherst, pomona, swarthmore, williams.</li>
<li>northwestern, jhu, washu, uchicago, georgetown, emory, rice, duke, top publics, and any other school someone on these boards likes a lot</li>
<li>every other school.</li>
</ol>