Liberals, how many of you assume Republicans are dumber than a sack of...

<p>Hey I agree^^But I think prevention is key, you can’t cure diseases that are related to obesity, but you can reduce obesity. </p>

<p>All this health care talk is beyond me, because well I’m too lazy too really look into it. But dude, we wouldn’t have so many health care problems if we just ate healthier. There was some statistic out that we spend over 140 billion dollars a year dealing with obesity related health costs. Now the question, Is why are we so fat? Some people blame the food industry(so do I) and some people blame that people don’t take responsibility (so do I). But to all you experts out there, If we reduce our medical costs, then health care would work right? I mean, this is a very simple concept, but very difficult to implement. How do you change the dietary habit of a whole country?</p>

<p>Try living in an urban town in California. Nothing but a bunch of schmucks who voted for Obama simply because he was black or because they wanted a handout. So take a look in the mirror when you call people who have a certain political ideology stupid.</p>

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<p>Now that’s just borderline racist of you.</p>

<p>Not really. There are a lot of people on the coasts with “white guilt”. That’s all I got to say.</p>

<p>You’re coming dangerously close to dishonesty. That’s all I’ve got to say.</p>

<p>huh?</p>

<p>How about we talk about Global Warming, the Giant Hoax. This is gettig a little too awkward.</p>

<p>“Tim Russert confronted Ron Paul on his putting earmarks for his district into bills, knowing that they will pass, and then voting against them. Ron Paul squirmed in his seat and started making up a bunch of BS.”</p>

<p>You have no idea what you are talking about (although Ron does often suck at explaining)</p>

<p>The total level of spending is determined by the Congressional leadership and the appropriators before any Member has a chance to offer any amendments. Members’ requests are simply recommendations to allocate parts of that spending for certain items in that members’ district or state. If funds are not designated, they revert to non-designated spending controlled by bureaucrats in the executive branch. In other words, when a designation request makes it into the budget, it subtracts funds out of what is available to the executive branch and bureaucrats in various departments, and targets it for projects that the people and their representatives request in their districts.</p>

<p>“We need an incentive system where doctors get paid for actually curing a patient, not just ordering a bunch of tests and procedures.” </p>

<p>Because patients have no incentive to shop around for low cost healthcare, the doctors have no incentive to keep their costs low. A free market system + healthier people = much lower medical costs.</p>

<p>Not at all. I was told dozens of times that I should support him simply because he was (half) African American. Everyone of of these people I encountered are politically illiterate.</p>

<p>I am politically literate and I saw a lot more people voting for McCain because he wasn’t black than voting for Obama because he’s black.</p>

<p>McCain and Sarah Palin would have done a far better job thus far on domestic issues. I mean, Sarah Palin is a governor of a state, far more experienced than Hussien Obama. </p>

<p>My name is Rush Limbaugh.<3 <3</p>

<p>@BMWidiot- my dad</p>

<p>I don’t like Conservative Evangelicals who think I’m going to hell because I am Catholic and believe in evolution and who are Bush loving hate mongers, but I also don’t like liberals who think they are better and more “rational” than everyone and if you are religious at all you are a fool. Extremes on both ends are bad. I know lots of intelligent liberals and lots of intelligent conservatives. I think my conservative friends are a bit misguided rather than unintelligent, especially when they actually believe something rather than cherry picking bible quotes and voting for the GOP because their folks do.</p>

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<p>Market system = profit motive = no incentive to make it easy to make claims</p>

<p>willmingtonwave ~ I think you just summed up my position rather nicely. :slight_smile:
I appreciate logical debate, but too often attempts by both sides to totally discredit the other just stick us all in an inescapable mire of politics as usual. The main thing I detest about extremists in general is their shared arrogance to presume that they can steamroll over their opponents with impunity. Whether they have a mission from God or a mission to destroy God, both camps are just damn annoying.</p>

<p>“Medicare Part D costs $50 billion a year. Replace that with a program to provide cheap basic coverage to anyone who wants it and I’d be happy.”</p>

<p>How would you be happy paying for the replacement program? Or do seniors who can’t pay go without their meds?</p>

<p>Better yet, move the Medicare age down to zero over time. The bureaucracy (that costs 2% of benefits paid out) is already in place. Get rid of the bloated, expensive private health insurance companies; we see how well they’ve done the job.</p>

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Try living in an urban town in California. Nothing but a bunch of schmucks who voted for Obama simply because he was black or because they wanted a handout. So take a look in the mirror when you call people who have a certain political ideology stupid.

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Lol, you sound like Michael Savage</p>

<p>I for one am perfectly fine with my health insurance, as are 85% of all other Americans. The same can’t be said for Brits where only 30% are happy with their personal health insurance. Those evil, bloated insurance companies must be doing something right, eh?</p>

<p>^ :herewegoagainface:</p>

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<p>I don’t get what the big deal is about healthcare.</p>