<p>once adoption is legal in FL i’ll change my mind johnson.</p>
<p>Ugh Tom, that kind of hurts. When you say that you hurt blacks, mexicans, and gay people. I just hate how I’m grouped in with the people that you say have girly voices, don’t watch FB games and don’t have good jobs? A lot of the gay people I have met are actually very smart people. Mexicans I’m not going there because I have several mexican friends who speak fluent english and are teaching me spanish.</p>
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<p>Tom, I couldn’t agree more. </p>
<p>A personal example: I am Hispanic. I came to America at 10 and became an American the minute I stepped off the plane. I still have an accent. </p>
<p>I know that very soon, I will have to get special training to get rid of my accent. I want to be a banker, wealthy, and someday a politician. I want to be successful. I know I will have to relearn how to eat, how to walk, basically everything for me to fit in the socioeconomic class that I want to live in. It’s okay- no one is telling me to do it. But I have observed enough to know that for me to accomplish my goals, I must make certain, small adjustments to my persona.</p>
<p>I was never, ever one of those Hispanics that waved foreign flags or listened to salsa or ate foreign food. Never. I made sure to filter and fit in perfectly from the start. Some feel I am traitor to “my roots”. I don’t feel that way. </p>
<p>Society is set a special way. That’s all there is to it. No one has changed it, no one ever will. It is better to adjust yourself and your lifestyle to be successful and happy than fighting a losing battle (a battle that won’t be won even if you devote your entire lifetime to it. Because society takes change very, very slowly) by sticking to your “differences”.</p>
<p>Hey, you know some straight guys tend to have “feminine” characteristics. My boyfriend loves to cook, clean, and shop and he’s straight. I know a LOT of straight guys who hate football. </p>
<p>Seriously Tom, do you really think that all LGBT are like that? No. The vast majority are not. </p>
<p>Isn’t America a melting pot of different cultures? We should have unity, but not everybody’s the same. The America I know is not one where everybody has to look and think the same. </p>
<p>And for those who say it’s hard to be different and to just conform. DON’T! Being different is what made America what it is. It is what reformed women’s rights, African-Americans’ rights, etc. To conform to what you don’t believe is just not right.</p>
<p>GAH! I have so much I want to say, but I’d be banned for it. So I’m biting my tounge.</p>
<p>Meth.. You never waved a foreign flag, as if you aren’t proud of being hispanic? I support hispanics who are proud of where they come from – but only to an extent. Listened to salsa? You should be able to have some of your culture in America. But then again I’m sort’ve bias when it comes to hispanics.</p>
<p>i guess my post came off kind of wrong, gay people as a social class dont have to go to football games and stuff, but just make straight friends and show the american people that your really not that different. And I never said anything about hurting blacks and mexicans, whered you get that from? </p>
<p>the core of my idea lies in the fact that the easiest, fastest, and arguably only way to gain respect in america is to show america you are not really different</p>
<p>LMU10 I understand what you are saying. Personally, I am not “grouping” you- I am not saying you are as flamboyant as Jack in Will & Grace. However, it is just reality that society in general would conform much more to a nonflamboyant-keep-quiet-about-it gay person than a very out-there- homosexual. </p>
<p>Please don’t take this offensively. I didn’t create society. None of us did. I am just telling you how it’s functioning right now.</p>
<p>Tom – I meant, by the stereotypes you could have hurt blacks or mexicans feelings.</p>
<p>Meth - Lol, thanks for the Jack comment ;). I know it isn’t offensive, but what’s funny is Americans have a very mixed culture. Everyone is very unique. Gay people shouldn’t be judged, and one gay person can’t change the way 100 others act. Why do you think I was ashamed?</p>
<p>THOSE ARENT MY BELIEFS GODDAM IT, i said they werent what i think about gay people, i try to remove my personal ego from the argument to take an objective stance. My statements regard my obervation that americans as a whole tend to be fearful of change. I am just looking at the past, for answers about the future. This isnt a "“gottcha” thing, im not there, and you dont have to change my mind because for the most part I am on your side. I just take a 3rd party stance most of the time. </p>
<p>my post wasnt ment to sound like an angery consevative rant now that I reread it</p>
<p>and I think that met was being sarcastic.</p>
<p>and I already stated that my posts only regard gay males because that is the socioeconomic group that i have studied and personally known the most members of.</p>
<p>Nooo I’m not saying those ARE your opinions, I’m just saying it might have hurt some feelings. Lmao, and it does sound like a rant. But it’s fine. I’m just saying, how someone could take it as hurtful</p>
<p>Sorry Tom, I did misread your post a little bit. I’ve been fuming about this (among other things) all day and I kind of rant on here.</p>
<p>besides the fact the the consevatives have rejected them, why are most gay people liberal? Most of the gay people I know are liberal even for liberal people. No offense intended and this is anecdotal only. I still think this is odd.</p>
<p>^ Because conservatives are against gay marriage and gay lifestyle? I thought that one was kind of self-evident.</p>
<p>no, I understand that, but it seems like most gay people go above and beyond the call of liberalism, not just taking the stuff they like, but taking it to a whole new level (like social programs, not killing babies, pro choice???(wontneedabortion)???, and other liberal things).</p>
<p>also, why are lgbt in the same boat, I dont get how they are all put together like that.</p>
<p>If homosexuals don’t annoy me, then I’m fine with them.</p>
<p>I had to go on a trip with my class and I ended up sitting next to a gay. The guy sitting next to me on the bus kept flapping eyes at me, talking in a girly voice, and kept asking “Are you ok?” while I was trying to friggin sleep. This kind of behavior totally ****es me off.</p>
<p>PS: Pro-abortion. The people who oppose abortion are also the ones who don’t give a damn about a baby when it’s in the struggling mother’s hands.</p>
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<p>I know plenty of gay people who are economically conservative.
Stereotypes may be based off of some truth, but don’t cover everything.</p>
<p>Lol AISGZ -</p>
<p>I’m sorry of your experience, but just to let you know all homosexuals aren’t like that. I’ve sat next to straight people on buses who are just as annoying. That behavior would annoy me too. So if any person doesn’t annoy me, I’m fine with them :D</p>
<p>I’m pro-abortion for circumstances.</p>
<p>I’m not blatantly opposing your views on the fact that homosexuality should be accepted by the general public, LMU, nor did I condemn you as one who overtly supports the “flamboyant” spirit of gay pride; I was merely stating my opinion on homosexuality in general (which, being an opinion, cannot be “wrong”, merely flawed). I’m sorry if I offended you in the process.</p>
<p>hmm lollypop. That’s interesting. Usually there is at least one or two at each school, considering the times they’ve done the statistics about 10% of people give or take every time are homosexual.</p>
<p>This thread is, with a few exceptions, ridiculous.</p>
<p>There will always be gays who will make out with their partners in parks. There will always be straights who will do so. Neither is “flaunting” their sexuality any more than the other is.</p>
<p>Roman’s said much of what I wanted to say, so I’ll just leave you all with a point that I also posted in the other thread but that I don’t think was ever responded to:
There are many of you here who say you don’t oppose gay rights but oppose parades, Day of Silence, and other shows of pride by the LGBT community. You say that since homosexuality is genetic and hence you can’t control it, gays shouldn’t be proud of it. Do you also oppose ethnic and cultural shows of pride? After all, you didn’t choose to be Hispanic, so why should you get to be clog up city streets for a day to play your music and be proud? And Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t choose to be black, so why did he get to rally people around his cause and so publicly march with them?</p>
<p>We (speaking as a queer female) come together to celebrate how far we’ve come and make friends and allies to help us continue our human rights battles. Parades and the such are not so much about sheer pride (“Yay! We’re gay!”) as they are about a community coming together to rejoice and understand. We are on the road to equality, but we have not yet arrived at our destination. And the best way for us to get to our destination more quickly is to find support, both for our causes and for ourselves.</p>