<p>ucla does not have a high % of students making it to med schools.</p>
<p>ucs are alwful for getting into med schools except ucr =D</p>
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ky9742, can you post a link to where you got the information that those schools send the most kids to harvard and yale med?
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<p>yes, I want to see the link where the information came from too.</p>
<p>This question is for BRM and/or BDM: Where can I find the GPA/MCAT statistics for students applying to med school based on the UG school they're applying from?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mdapplicants.com%5B/url%5D">www.mdapplicants.com</a></p>
<p>you can see on this site where an applicant went to UG, their MCAT and gpa---just remember this site is kinda like CC--it is self-reported, thus is certainly not inclusive.</p>
<p>"ucla does not have a high % of students making it to med schools."</p>
<p>but ucla's percentage (48-49%) encompasses about 350 students, which is still a lot</p>
<p>upenn, dartm, columbia r good for premeds? O.o i thought upenn was for buisness and dartm and columbia r for history or something O.o
edit: why would you go to upenn for premed...buisness there is top notch and columbia and dartm. are godly in social sciences =D history rocks</p>
<p>BDM likely has better idea of where this information is. I think he largely uses what's published by schools themselves but I could be wrong...</p>
<p>i doubt ucla's % is near 50%. Even if it is that high, UCLA has a HUGE attrition rate (aka people who start out premed their freshman year don't apply to med school because of grades etc.), so its easy to be fooled by the stats. One thing I know is that UCLA has the most number of applicants in the country.</p>
<p>I think the acceptance rate being asked for is of the people that actually apply. Every school in the country has a huge attrition rate, even pre-med factories like Creighton (home of the facebook group - "i attend Creighton and I'm not pre-med") have high attrition rates...</p>
<p>I would add Haverford to the list, their med school acceptance rate is over 90 percent.</p>
<p>"Here are the rankings for med school from USNWR:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Williams</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Swarthmore</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Pomona</li>
<li>UPenn</li>
</ol>
<p>Surprised? me too"</p>
<p>Can I get a link to this list?</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>Thank god I was on vacation when this post was written.</p>
<p>no school is "for" a field of study. stop thinking that way</p>
<p>for example, penn has a good business school, wharton, but its college of arts and sciences is also great for premeds. they have their own hospitals and research facilities in west philly. why wouldnt you go to penn for premed??</p>
<p>I think the ranking based on only Harvard and Yale medical school acceptances is flawed. At the very least, I would consider looking at least the top 10 schools. The Wall Street Journal did something similar for top law, medicine, and business school acceptances but only looked at 5 schools in each category with a number of outstanding programs omitted and schools from the Midwest and West Coast were poorly represented. I have seen this list on some of the CC boards.</p>
<p>Moreover, is the ranking based on the number of applicants from a particular college which apply or the number of students from a particular college that applies. For instance, based on my experience having served on a top medical school admissions committee, there may only be 10-15 applications from a Williams or Amherst but perhaps 50 from Penn or Duke. If the class has only 2 students from each of these schools, it could be argued the former sent a greater proportion of their premeds to a particular medical school. On the other hand, based on number of student accepted, they would all be ranked similarly. I agree with BigRed and others that it is important to find a school where you will achieve your highest potential that also has a reasonably good advising system. Some schools that are noted for high medical acceptance rates, e.g. Johns Hopkins, but they also have high attrition rates. On the other hand if you do well there, you will likely get accepted to a top medical school. Doing well at a state school also will likely get you admitted to medical school (often the state medical school); however, unless you are at t he absolute top of the applicant pool from your school, it may be harder to get into a top medical school such as Harvard or Hopkins. While they are a useful guide, overall acceptance rates to medical school for a given college per se, may not give a totally accurate picture of the strength of the pre-medical program. </p>
<p>I also think a fairly large number of students opt for their state schools because of cost. Top students do not necessarily choose to go to the higher ranked medical schools. Unlike the legal profession in which the prestige of the law school attended matters, where you attend medical school is not that critical for future success as a physician. Unless you plan to go into academic medicine or are interested in highly sought-after specialties where there are limited residency slots (e.g. ophthomology, dermatology, radiology), the prestige of the medical school does not have a high correlation with professional choices and success. Most patients do not check where their doctors went to medical school. Last, strong MCATs can be an equalizer for an applicant, even if someone applies from a school that does not have many graduates going to medical school. We used them as a guide when applicants applied from schools that did not have strong academic reputations.</p>
<p>^Nice Post</p>
<p>"Good?" That depends on what end of the spectrum you're on. For instance, a student who has a low GPA, SATs, etc. can not consider an Ivy, JHU, Duke or others. So, it comes down to having to sort it in two sections: 'good' premed programs for the higher end (HYP, etc.) and 'good' premed programs for the lower end (in my area, NYU, Rutgers (probably for UMDNJ only), etc.). Also, as has been regurgitated in many different forms on this thread and others in this forum, there is no one aspect to focus on. IT IS IMPORTANT TO GO FOR THE WHOLE PACKAGE. AAMC's site is great if anyone is looking for raw statistics, but, once again, these often leave out the bigger picture. If one was to list 'good' schools by ability necessary to get in, such a list would include:</p>
<ul>
<li>For the top-notch crowd: HYPS</li>
<li>For the higher end crowd: JHU, UPenn, Columbia, Cornell, Duke, Brown, UCB, UCLA, (probably more UCs I'm missing), WUSTL, and many others.<br></li>
<li>For the middle end crowd: NYU, Boston, Georgetown, UMich, etc.</li>
<li>For the lower end crowd: Rutgers and others.</li>
</ul>
<p>Now, this is by no means the end all in terms of possibilites (notice I included none of the LACs and focused on the East Coast more or less)...in fact, when it comes right down to it, unless you're dead set on trying to get into JHU/Harvard/UPenn/Cornell/etc. med school, any premed program can work. What's important is how ambitious and dedicated the student is. There are success stories of people making it to med school from all over the place. High GPAs/MCATs and passionate extracurricular involvement are ultimately the keys to success in getting a medical education. These things will often upset the imbalance generated as a result of attending a less prestigious school and will work in anyone's favor. So the question is, ultimately, not 'What is a good premed program?', but more 'What do I have to do to make the most out of a premedical education?' and that is the subject of the vast majority of threads on this forum.</p>
<p>I would be inclined to disagree on your high placement of the UC's, as iterated in my post #18.</p>
<p>UCB and UCLA are unbelievably good for premed. Either that or all the asians make them good...Btw, how's Duke? I have heard pretty horrible stories about deflated GPAs there.</p>
<p>...Oh no you didn't...</p>
<p>I look forward to BDM's reply</p>
<p>Stevens Institute of Technology has an acceptance rate of 90%. I hope to be going there next year, as a pre-med.</p>