List of schools going to their waitlist

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<p>I agree with pizzagirl… The highest priority for a college is to hit their overall enrollment number. Every university/college operates best if enrollment is within a specific range. That is their goal.</p>

<p>Now… If they know they can afford to go to their waitlist and stay within their range, they will look for needs. Do they need more male/female enrollment? Do they need more international students? Do they need more athletes? Do they need more science majors? </p>

<p>I doubt the combination of a specific instrument / state combination would ever be an option unless it was a school that heavily relied on their music department to recruit students. Julliard as an example.</p>

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<p>Chicago
Duke
Elon University
Emory
Ithaca College
Juilliard (violin specifically; not sure of other disciplines)
Loyola Maryland
Providence College
Rice
Texas A&M University
University of Delaware
University of Miami
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
University of Texas at Austin
Washington & Lee
Hamilton College</p>

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<p>I agree that many of the schools on the list a few posts above are first rate - that’s what surprised me. Seems strange that these schools have determined that they will not meet their target yields even before the deadline for acceptees to turn in their deposits. Either their yields are running much lower than expected, or they intended from the beginning that they would fill a certain percentage of the class from the waitlist (possibly because they can get more full pay students that way, since most schools are not need blind in admitting from the wait list). Just wondering if the same schools went to the waitlists this early in prior years…</p>

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<p>If Ivys go to WL, there will be more schools going to their WL. This is what happens when kids apply 15-20 schools.</p>

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<p>I always thought that many schools would be going to their waitlists this year; the record number of applicants so many schools reported wasn’t due to an increase in their individual popularity, but to the increasing number of schools kids apply to. (and my family is guilty as charged!)</p>

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<p>Isn’t this the beginning of what they call, summer melt…whereby spaces open up further up the ladder and kids move on up, and up…</p>

<p>I know one one student- now a graduate this yr–who put a deposit on one slot,
only to change twice before orientation her freshman yr…</p>

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<p>Not only is this likely a result of kids applying to 15-20 schools, but also a reflection of kids not getting the FA they want/need.</p>

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<p>Brandeis
Chicago
Duke
Elon University
Emory
Ithaca College
Juilliard (violin specifically; not sure of other disciplines)
Loyola Maryland
Providence College
Rice
Texas A&M University
University of Delaware
University of Miami
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
University of Texas at Austin
Washington & Lee
Hamilton College</p>

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<p>Is this known because the respondents know of a student offered a spot from a wait list? Or are the schools releasing this information?</p>

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<p>in my case, know of a student accepted; can’t speak for others…also, there are kids posting on college specific threads on CC</p>

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<p>I understand it can take an admissions office several days to really understand where they are in terms of numbers and in other terms (gender split, intended majors, and those tuba players). </p>

<p>I could certainly see that – the kid that was agonizing between CalTech and MIT chose last night – and then did his/her emails to all the other schools – which means some other place might be suddenly short math students while still being strong in another category. </p>

<p>Ah, to be a fly on the wall in admissions this week! (I am profoundly glad it is not me. It sounds like a very challenging job).</p>

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<p>I personally think that by the time adcoms get to WL, they are like, “I just want this to be over with so I could go on my summer vacation.” Oh a WL person is on the phone, “You are full pay? You really want a spot? You could commit now? We’ll get back to you.” Two minutes later call the WL person back, “After careful consideration, we would really like to offer you the spot. We think you would be the perfect fit for this school. You will accept? Great! We will send the package right away.” One down, 50 more to go, just shoot me, someone put me out of this misery!!!</p>

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<p>There is some merit to your posting, oldfort! They know any kid on the wait list has the numbers/qualifications to fit in. </p>

<p>But I think there also could be more “melt” in one major than another. What do you tell the Science Dean if you are only bringing in two biology majors when you normally have 30? (or only 150 bio majors when you typically have 400?). </p>

<p>I’m also curious to know if the fin aid barrel is completely dry. . . .</p>

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<p>Regarding merit or scholarships…why is it that when colleges go to WL they claim there is no merit/scholarship money left when everyone KNOWS that not everyone who was offered merit scholarships is not going to the schoola who offered it?</p>

<p>I mean, if John Smith was offered merit money at College A and chose to go to College B, what happens to that merit money? Couldn’t College A then offer that money earmarked for John Smith to one of the students they accepted off the WL?</p>

<p>We all know they could, but they won’t. Infuriating, IMO.</p>

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<p>Whether it’s need based or merit based, they do not expect everyone to accept it. They wouldn’t have enough money if everyone did, no different than a school offering 2000 acceptance and expect 1000 to matriculate.</p>

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<p>I agree with you completely. I suspect it’s a) early bird gets the worm (in terms of who immediately raises their hands, makes themselves known, says “I love you, I love you, if you admit me I will come” and / or b) full-pay gets the worm. The cynic in me even says it’s the latter. Because who, after all, can show them the love by coming out and visiting? More likely full-pays who can hop on the plane and come out there.</p>

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<p>^^unless, of course, they give you 24 hours and you have to take an AP test…lol; not!</p>

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Rice didn’t go to the waitlist last year at all, except for 3 or 4 students for a capped architecture program. They were actually over enrolled with too many freshman, so accepted conservatively this year.</p>

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<p>“I don’t believe for one minute that if the tuba player from Texas turns a school down, that their waitlist is coded in such a way that they can then instantly find another tuba player from Texas and slot him or her in.” </p>

<p>I couldn’t agree more… but you can bet that when it comes to “uniquely talented students at very good schools” the Coaches and athletes, the Deans of fellows and honors programs, and yes at some schools; even the professors in charge of musical theater department or the instrumental ensemble know the top 20 students they want and the relative strengths of the next 5 back up (waitlisted) students. There is no need for the waitlist to be coded in any way, because the names are known by the Deans of the programs, the admission staff who works with those students, and sometimes even the students on the waitlist. </p>

<p>When your talking about very good schools before May 1st, I think your often talking about talented student # 6 of twenty has informed us that they are attending “other U” and they call student 21 (from the waitlist) and offer them a position before he/she commits elsewhere… </p>

<p>It’s not yet a generic numbers driven rush…</p>

<p>The question was is it unusual for schools to go to their waitlist before May 1? - </p>

<p>After May first - it’s mainly about gross numbers, then it’s about $, how well the adcoms guessed, and the relative perceived value of the school in that year, as well as all the above…</p>

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<p>I have a rising Sr. so it will be very interesting to see how this years results affect next years admissions. (ie, if University A goes deep into it’s waitlist will they accept more students next year?).</p>