<p>Voodoo: We have been over this before in my previous reponse to you on that issue. Work your tail off this semester and get OUTSTANDING grades senior year. Your SAT is fine, its your gpa. Apply to both and see what happens and apply early admission (non binding) or apply regular decision and get your application in PLENTY early. The early bird gets the worm. </p>
<p>College admissions is often quirky and capricious. People with excellent stats get overlooked and kids with lower stats sometimes get in, so its not a death sentence if you dont have a 4.0 and 2200 SAT. But you still have to spread your risk around by applying to several schools: reach, match, safety.</p>
<p>On Poughkeepsie, well its not NYC to be sure, but its accessible easily by train. If you go to Marist or Vassar, kids there love their schools and seem plenty happy. You aren't "living in Poughkeepsie" you are simply going to school there. They are just more choices. That being said, I do believe Manhattan College (in Riverdale section of the Bronx, very upscale) is a lovely location and pretty campus and they would be a match school for you.</p>
<p>You have received some great advice here but I wanted to clear up some incorrect information you were given.</p>
<p>"Syracuse is an excellent school and actually a tad higher ranked on the National University level than Fordham but otherwise a very close school in terms of its test scores etc. Its a great alternative to Fordham in that it is substantially less expensive for New York residents."</p>
<p>Syracuse University is not substantially less expensive for New York residents. It is a private college which will cost about 48K to attend this year. Fordham is about 50K. I think the poster is confusing SUNY ESF with Syracuse. SUNY ESF is about 19K per year and its students can live in SU dorms, eat in the dining halls, use the facilities, take classes and join their clubs etc. They have a joint graduation with SU and even have the Syracuse University seal on their diplomas along with the SUNY ESF seal. Students at SUNY ESF study environmental science and forestry.</p>
<p>If you don't live on campus, Fordham may give you several thousand off tuition (I think $6,000 but can't remember). It's called a commuter scholarship or something. Would really bring the cost of Fordham for us close to an OOS college (you have to add food and transportation back in) but my daughter does not like the idea of living at home!!</p>
<p>Voodoo - I think Rochester, RIT and Syracuse would be too far away from NYC for you..I would definitely look at Marist - friends that went there got some nice internships in NYC, one got permanent employment from the company that she interned at..</p>
<p>Fordham tuition next year is 35k and Room and Board run about 12k making the total 47k not 50k, and that is before scholarships and any grants and financial aid. On the scale of administrative efficiency, I saw on another thread Fordham is about middle of the pack, neither extremely lean nor extremely bloated, essentially in line with Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina, which oddly enough was also one of my daughter's final choices among schools she was accepted at last year. </p>
<p>While all college tuition is ridiculously high and the cost of room and board is also egregious, Fordham's is certainly no worse than most highly selective private colleges. Only the EXTREMELY WELL ENDOWED (pardon the pun) Ivy League Schools and a few others like Davidson College pledge to meet 100% of your financial needs and offer essentially free rides to anyone with incomes below 60k a year. But that is also a marketing ploy since very few kids who come from families with income below 60k will have the stats to get in...some do...but not many. The VAST majority of admitted students come from the muddled middle class which carries the financial burden of college on their backs, while the uber rich either stroke a check and laugh, or they have been "privileged" and have uber high stats and get the scholarship money. </p>
<p>Fordham does try and spread out the financial packages to more people...such that you may not get 100% of your needs, but MORE kids are getting help at Fordham. That at least seems more equitable. </p>
<p>But at Fordham, the job opportunities in New York will be so wonderful and the salaries so good, that you are "investing" in your future.</p>
<p>alGorescousin: Fordham Tuition 35K+R/B 12K+ Books/travel/fees 1500=48.5K. Ok, so it's not 50K.... my mistake. The main reason for my post was to inform the OP that Syracuse was NOT substantially less expensive for New York residents as you stated in your post. That's all.</p>
<p>^ u guys GOTTA be kidding right?!!?!!? 50k x4 (200k for 4 years)...-_- dude wow i can't afford that....are all the colleges THAT expensive?</p>
<p>of the colleges on the list you guys know which is one the cheaper side?</p>
<p>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</p>
<p>You can check out Seton Hall (20 min train ride to Manhattan), Manhattan College (in Riverdale about 8 miles N of Manhattan), St Johns (in Queens),
LIU Brooklyn, Pace University (Westchester and Manhattan), John Jay....
There are options if you really want to live near there.</p>