<p>I screwed up in high school (3.1 GPA 1000 SAT), but still managed to get into all of the colleges that I applied to (all Cal states). I just completed my first system of college at Sonoma State as a pre business major. I have a 2.9 GPA overall, but only a 2.5 GPA in the pre business courses. I’m looking to transfer to a bigger (and better business school). I have completed 34 units so far. I really piled it on heavy with the business classes in my first semester of college and I think this may hurt me in the longrun. I should be able to easily get my overall GPA up to around 3.1 or so.</p>
<p>So far, here are the ones I’m looking at
University of Oregon
University of Arizona
Arizona State
Chico State
University of New Mexico</p>
<p>I’m from southern California, so I’d rather not go as far as the east coast. I’m not sure if I’ll be able to get into any of these business schools besides Chico State. Any suggestions of other colleges anywhere in the country that I should apply to or any advice period would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>why did you go to sonoma state when your intention was to go to a better school in the first place? you should have gone to CCC and transfer out.</p>
<p>"can i ask how your GPA dropped from a higher one in highschool to a lower one at sonoma? just for curiosity."
College is much more difficult than high school</p>
<p>"why did you go to sonoma state when your intention was to go to a better school in the first place? you should have gone to CCC and transfer out."
I wanted to get away from home. There is no way I could live with my parents or in my home town for another 2 years. I probably should have gone to Chico. I also could have gotten into ASU, but at the time, I didn’t want to go out of state.</p>
<p>My big problem is that I'm a huge procrastinator. I waited until the last day before my Econ and Sociology finals to study. I crammed for 5 hours for the Econ final and 3 for the Sociology final. I got a B on both finals. The lowest grade I have ever gotten in my life was is a C-. I guess I’ve never experience real failure even though I always procrastinate and don’t work hard enough. In high school, I put in very little effort and same with the SATs. I didn’t really care because I knew that my grades would be good enough to get into a decent college.</p>
<p>Well, you probably can't transfer out now if that's what you're wanting to do. The way I see it, if you take 34 credits this year and get all As then you can raise your score up to around 3.45 which is good enough to transfer to those schools. I'm not really sure how you can effect your major GPA. You may have to transfer into one of those colleges' liberal arts program and wait a semester to try and get into the business school. </p>
<p>Whatever you do, be sure to say something to the effect that you were not really ready for college during your first year and that you took too heavy of a courseload to try and explain your low GPA.</p>
<p>this college is much more difficult then high school thing isnt a good enough excuse, man. i went from a 1.3 gpa in high school to a 3.8. yeah, you're right. you probably never experienced real failure in life, and that's why you cant motivate yourself beyond your capacity. that happens with most procrastinators, especially myself. lucky enough for me, i got caught after high school. i didnt graduate. i watched as all of my friends walked and i didnt. my grandparents came down from india and they had to watch as i was being left behind. after i graduated, i realized that this was my last chance, that CCC was my last chance. I thought i couldnt live at home either, and i wanted to go to another school further away from home because i didnt think i'd be able to work there. I relented, coming to my senses, and doubled back from a spiral that i should not have been going down.</p>
<p>even though you think that you haven't caught yourself, by being here and demonstrating that you want to go to a better school, you show that you know you have the potential to work and achieve beyond your limits, beyond your capacity. I dont think...that this is where you should be, however. my advice to you is drop out of sonoma state, and get back to CCC. that's what another one of my friends did, he was at UCSB and decided he needed some time to figure out his own life. this is probably not the advice you want to hear, and probably not the advice that you want to hear. i'm going to give yo u a link to look through, search for ''90 semester'' and you'll be in the area you want to be. it is primarily concerned with students who have accumulated units at both a four-year institution and communty college. you do have a chance to enter into the UC system, but you're going to have to take the pride hit and go back home.</p>
<p>this is not what you want to hear, and probably not what you want to do. in terms of getting into a business school, anderson at LA and irvine's new business econ program are both damn good. berkeley will be a longshot for you, but you may be able to pull it off. it depends on what you think you can do. i think i've said enough. i'll cut it off with the link.</p>
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i didnt graduate. i watched as all of my friends walked and i didnt. my grandparents came down from india and they had to watch as i was being left behind. after i graduated, i realized that this was my last chance, that CCC was my last chance. I thought i couldnt live at home either, and i wanted to go to another school further away from home because i didnt think i'd be able to work there. I relented, coming to my senses, and doubled back from a spiral that i should not have been going down.
<p>"this college is much more difficult then high school thing isnt a good enough excuse, man. i went from a 1.3 gpa in high school to a 3.8."
zemookmook- you went to a community college. It's much easier to attain a high GPA at a community college than at a university. I've gone to community college for the past two summers to take a class and it's much easier. The professors are much more lenient and give you multiple opportunities to improve your grade. Community college was not an option. I cant go into much detail, but all I will say is that I could not live at home.</p>
<p>A UC is not an option for 3 reasons
1. Only UC Berkeley has a business major. The rest have business/economics. I probably want to major in marketing.
2. Its almost impossible to transfer from a Cal state to a UC.
3. I wouldnt have gone to a UC even if I had the grades out of high school to go there (see #1)</p>
<p>I already have guaranteed admission into ASU, but not their business program. I dont want to transfer somewhere if I have to change majors. I might just end up transferring to Chico if I cant get into the other schools. Im still waiting for someone with a bit more knowledge on this subject to help me with my latest predicament (ok, maybe its not that bad).</p>
<p>worried student- i'm not gonna say anymore on this thread after this post. please dont feel me bull *<strong><em>. advanced physics with calculus, differential equations, linear algebra, the highest level english and philosophy classes offered are not easy no matter where you go. and i have taken those courses. so dont *</em></strong> me that community college is easier as a whole, because that could not be FURTHER then the truth. those subjects' material are difficult no matter where you go. you dont wanna take my advice about the UC, its cool with me. i was just offering my help. but dont double back on me and try to numb something i'm proud of-it's just going to make you look like an idiot.</p>
<p>but zemookmook, it IS true that cc is easier compared to other four year universities for few reasons:</p>
<p>1.) It uses semester system. Completing a course in 4 monthes is LOT easier and more flexible than completing it in 3 monthes. (Just like how it's easier to take AP classes in high school (where you get 9 months to complete it) than taking it in colleges (you get 3-4 months).</p>
<p>2.) I'm not saying that all cc students are less competitive or anything, but you have to admit that most cc students aren't really academically motivated . Only a portion of cc students (less than 10%) are true motivated ones planning on transferring to 4 year university. Competiting against less motivated students lightens up the competition in the class.</p>
<p>3.) Profs are more lenient toward grades. Unlike the 4 year university profs who are like "ok, only 10% of the class are granted with A this quarter. No exceptions", cc profs tend to be more compromising.</p>
<p>Heck, some people actually WANT to go to cc even if they are admitted to a 4 year university just to raise their grade.</p>
<p>zemookmook- I’m not trying to downplay what you’ve accomplished. I think you took it the wrong way. It’s fantastic that you got a 3.8 GPA. I wasn’t saying that I would magically go up a full point in GPA. No college is easy. The classes at community college are usually less demanding, but it depends on the subject you are taking. I would guess that I’d have about a 3.2-3.3 if I went to community college. My school has + and – which has hurt my GPA, whereas my CC doesn’t have that. At my CC most classes are 4 units, whereas at my school many are 3 units. UC’s are outstanding schools, but they aren’t right for everybody. At a UC you get a more broad education. At a Cal state it’s more specialized. You focus more on your major and it’s more structured. I think this type of environment/program is more conducive for learning (for me).</p>
<p>this would all be pertinent discussion, except on a few counts.</p>
<p>Replies.
1)im on quarter system, not semester.
2)sure, i guess they are, but this isnt detracting from the assertion that the subjects i mentioned are any easier then those at university. they are comparable.
3)umm, i've seen university grading policies for exams, and considering how the majority of my teachers have previously taught at 4-year universities, they hold the same stringent grading standards. this has been proven over and over again...i rarely ever come across a professor without a phD or comparable experience in the field if it is a career-related class.</p>
<p>my school has + and - grading as well...and, like i said..i was talking about the subjects i mentioned specifically. i'm not talking about remedial math or remedial english, or even high-school level classes. i'm being very specific here. </p>
<p>bio,microbio,ochem,physics with calc, differential equations, linear algebra, sophomore-level comparable english and philosophy classes taught by professors that previously taught at stanford-which, i might add, we have an absolute abundance of considering we're five minutes away? in any case, the issues that i was raising were case-specific. there's no point in debating the merits of easiness of community college relative to a four-year university as a whole, this i dont dispute. what i dispute is the assertion that courseload is relatively lighter and easier at a CC then at a 4-year when those classes are included in a curricula. i think it's pretty stupid to say that there is any way linear algebra can be made 'easy'. but at the same time, you're never going to have a 61A or a 61C from berkeley's engineering comparable to a CCC course. it's not possible. that's fine-but that's why articulation for the other more challenging courses exists. they're the same bloody courses.</p>
<p>3.1 hs gpa and 1000 SAT isn't that bad. just get a 3.5+ your freshman year and i don't see why you couldn't get into any of the colleges you listed.</p>
<p>"3.1 hs gpa and 1000 SAT isn't that bad. just get a 3.5+ your freshman year"
Those were high school; in college I got a 2.9 my freshman year.</p>
<p>Here's what I said about how I've done in college so far
"I have a 2.9 GPA overall, but only a 2.5 GPA in the pre business courses. I’m looking to transfer to a bigger (and better business school). I have completed 34 units so far. I really piled it on heavy with the business classes in my first semester of college and I think this may hurt me in the longrun. I should be able to easily get my overall GPA up to around 3.1 or so."
I don't want to, can't get in, and can't afford to go to USC. It's not an option.</p>
<p>I had a bad day today, so I might sound a bit angry. All I want to know about is the schools I listed or non-private schools with good business programs that I might be able to get into.</p>
<p>as i said before, my friend just got into marshall with a 3.4 gpa with a less than rigorous course load (along with a few Cs) and a darn mediocre essay</p>
<p>and almost 0 EC</p>
<p>by average...it means they will accept a bunch of people with gpa higher AND LOWER than their average</p>
<p>it certainly doesn't hurt to try and apply and even though usc is expensive, they offer lots of aid</p>