<p>Hi I would like to know what my chances are of getting in UMich so far. I am a Palestinian born in the West Bank and have lived in the USA for 15 years and am a US citizen. I am a rising Senior in high school and have a 3.9 GPA unweighted. I go to a small school and am ranked 3out of 106 kids in my class. Our school doesn't weigh GPA's and only offers one honors class which I took. I'm taking the hardest classes I can. ACT score was a 27. I'm on the Varsity track team, im on the National Honor Society, Science Olympiad, attended Michigan boys state, and I took sixth in state for a project I built in class. I am taking the hardest classes next year which include Calculus, Physics, and English 121. </p>
<p>Now I want to apply to CoE but my math ACT was too low. My scores were:
C 27
S 29
E 28
R 30
M 21</p>
<p>Would I have a better chance of getting in applying to LSA over CoE. I can always try to get into CoE later after i get in.</p>
<p>^Don’t do that. Like other posters have stated, you should apply to LSA, and maintain a good GPA. Then, you could transfer into COE. It would not be wise to apply to COE, as you will probably be rejected, and will have to attend a different university before transferring to U-M. It’s best to just apply to LSA where you are less likely to be rejected. Remember that your primary goal is to get into Michigan; deciding which school you want to attend and graduate from comes later.</p>
<p>I agree with doctor. I want to be an engineer and my math act score doesn’t represent my math skills. I feel that my goal is attending michigan an once I’m there, I can focus on trying to get into CoE.</p>
<p>Everything looks fine except for that ACT. I agree with the others. Take the ACT again and try to raise the score to at least 29 (with a 32 or better on the Math section. If you can improve your ACT as mentioned above, apply to the CoE. If your ACT score is lower than that, I recommend applying to LSA.</p>
<p>It seems like COE really places a lot of weight on that ACT math subscore. If my subscore is good (36), but I have a low UW GPA (3.71), do you think I still have a solid chance since I’ve proven my school has taught me sufficient math skills?</p>
<p>3.7 is not low, assuming you attend a school that is known for grade deflation. I know applicants who attend schools with severe school deflation who were admitted with 3.2 GPAs. 3.5+ GPAs from those schools are unheard of and 3.3+ GPAs typically get students into Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>^ I don’t know that my school’s grade deflating is THAT severe, but my school is well-regarded (#3 public in MI for college preparedness, only after 2 charter schools), and The source of my somewhat low GPA is my freshman year. By the way, I visited recently and the admissions rep said if you had a bad freshman year but then did well, they tend to disregard those grades altogether. Have you noticed this is true? Thanks for your help!!</p>
<p>Few universities weigh Freshman grades heavily. Michigan did not even consider Freshman grades until last year, and even now merely glances at them. Sophomore and Junior years are far more important.</p>
<p>Secondly, you probably have naviance at your school. Look at how students with 3.7 GPAs and 35 ACT scores have done in the past. I suspect there is an 80% accpetance rate for such students from your school.</p>
<p>^seriously how many times do you have to hear that you will get in? it is kind of getting ridiculous. You have a 35 ACT applying to a PUBLIC school. Also, don’t hijack someone else’s thread. The OP actually needs advice. </p>
<p>@puremeerkat you really do NEED to retake the ACT again. I know some people who had 28ACTs and 3.9+ GPA IS students get rejected this year so you really should retake it to better your chances.</p>
<p>OP: I would try to raise your ACT score, but we throw that piece of advice around pretty liberally, when it is obviously easier said than done. So honestly even if you don’t, I really think the most important part is getting into the school in general. Working your way around the system is a lot easier once you are IN the system, you know? If it were me, I would apply to whatever I had the best chance of getting into. Good luck:)</p>
<p>I agree live4phyzics dude I had a 30 ACT and a 3.7 and got in. It bothers me when people ask ridiculous questions like that, a 35 ACT is Ivy level, and Michigan is well below that. Do some research on your own if you were really wondering what the ranges are… I feel like some people just come onto this forum to get people to give them compliments on their stats and it’s ridiculous…</p>
<p>/rant</p>
<p>Anyway as for the OP, I agree with everyone else that you should NOT apply to CoE, and with such a low math score I think engineering may not be the field you should go into. Remember as an engineer you will be taking 3 math classes (4 if you count ENGR) every semester, and if that’s not your strong suit, I’d explore other avenues of academia.</p>
<p>Kyle, just because you got in with a 3.7 GPA and a 30 on the ACT does not mean that all students with similar stats (or even better stats) get in. Furthermore, Michigan will likely receive close to 50,000 applicants next year, and will again be aiming at a class of 5,700, which means the University will only accept 15,000-16,000 applicants. That’s a 30% acceptance rate. You can bet many applicants with stellar credentials are going to be turned down.</p>
<p>As such, I think live4phyzics’ fears are justified, albeit admitedly perhaps a little extreme.</p>
<p>Honestly, liv4physics seems to be stressing about one component(GPA) which is, despite their worries, not bad at all. And I think Kyle has a point (although, Ivies are lovely and all but don’t hate on the UMich, man. def one of the classiest schools around ). If you are only going to look at GPA and ACT score, then you are obviously fine.
That is not all admissions officers are going to be looking at. But if that is the only thing that stresses you out, than obviously as seen above ^^ you have no reason to be stressing out. You are fine. Write good essays, and hopefully you have some good ECs. That is important with any selective college.</p>