Marijuana and School

<p>Why would anyone report a stoner? That's such a waste of time and energy...</p>

<p>Worry about YOURSELF, people. And don't try to thrust your morals on others.</p>

<p>^It's not for us. If we don't report them, we get into even BIGGER trouble.</p>

<p>I dont understand that concept. How would they know you DIDN'T report something?</p>

<p>The kids will tell them that there were other people in that bathroom.</p>

<p>It's mostly for if they catch you in the bathroom with them.</p>

<p>It's like how if we're seen watching a fight, they'll suspend us just for watching it.</p>

<p>HisGraceFillsMe-
WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC?????? How can you get in trouble for NOT reporting something????????
and it' s not YOUR duty to do that anyways. let people live their own lives and make their own decsions. I think that we are all old enough to do that by now....... we ae you so afraid pot???? Believe me you'll deal within middle school, high school, college, oh adn GUESS WHAT???? adults smoke pot too!!!!!!!!!!! you cna't spend the rest of your life telling on people because you just won't get very far in your life if you do. believe me i learned this the hard way........ myabe someone should start the website tattletalesconfidential.com...............</p>

<p>If I'm not mistaken, she's also claimed that she has snitched on people simply for cheating.</p>

<p>I agree with HisGraceFillsMe. Marijuana has no place in public schools. It's illegal, and it does harm to the person who smokes it. I do not know of one positive thing it does to a healthy person (positive thing as in a positive contribution to health). I do know of many negative things.</p>

<p>Stuff like caffeine is different - they don't harm, first of all, and they do have positive contributions that far outweigh marijuanas.</p>

<p>Laws are there for a reason. In this case, because the consequences can be really bad to the person, I would tell on the person for his/her own sake.</p>

<p>Health is by far the best thing you could have - and if you ruin it, you can't have it back easily.</p>

<p>Umm marijuana's illegal status is highly due to propaganda and racism, not a very good reason if you ask me.</p>

<p>Oh and fyi, you can overdose and die with caffeine pills. Not that harmful ;)</p>

<p>Wxman.</p>

<p>First off, you can overdose on caffeine, cigarettes are proven to give you lung cancer, and alcohol causes addiction, shrinks the brain, and can cause alcohol poisoning. If the government cared about you the laws would be designed to stop all drugs.</p>

<p>Alcohol is a factor in 50-65%+ in high way accidents, similar for murder and assault.</p>

<p>America sprays somewhere between 30-50% more chemicals than other countries possessing radium and other radioactive materials to improve yields on their cigarette fields. Contrary to what they would have you believe, 70-90% of lung cancer deaths aren't from tobacco, but from the cancer causing agents they spray.</p>

<p>Why is it that America has a weak and ambiguous surgeon generals warning, but whenever you go to another country or my friends bring back cigarettes everyone else has it clearly stated in big red words, "SMOKING KILLS", or "SMOKING CAUSES CANCER". No ifs, ands, or buts. This is why America's smoking rate is so high in comparison to others.</p>

<p>Caffeine is proven to put strain on the heart, AND you can go through withdrawal symptoms, some being similar to flu like symptoms.</p>

<p>Wanna know why weed is really illegal. Google Harry Anslinger and William hearst, a major contributor to the spanish american war (that's for another time.). Too lazy? Here's two quotes to get you started:</p>

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"An entire family was murdered by a youthful addict in Florida. When officers arrived at the home, they found the youth staggering about in a human slaughterhouse. With an axe he had killed his father, mother, two brothers, and a sister. He seemed to be in a daze… He had no recollection of having committed the multiple crime. The officers knew him ordinarily as a sane, rather quiet young man; now he was pitifully crazed. They sought the reason. The boy said that he had been in the habit of smoking something which youthful friends called “muggles,” a childish name for marijuana."

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"Colored students at the Univ. of Minn. partying with female students (white), smoking [marijuana] and getting their sympathy with stories of racial persecution. Result pregnancy"[citation needed]</p>

<pre><code>"Two Negros took a girl fourteen years old and kept her for two days under the influence of marijuana. Upon recovery she was found to be suffering from syphilis

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<p>Syphilis....right.</p>

<p>As for weed having no positive affects, what do you have caffeine for (which by the way looks like pure coke in its real form, maybe that would change your mindset on it being a drug)? Mood elevation, alleviate boredom, etc etc. Same thing with weed, except you can't overdose, there have been no reported deaths in the thousands of years of its history (someone probably died from allergic reaction though, you can be allergic to anything), its grow yield is incredible, it enriches the soil it grows in, and besides that hemp has hundreds of uses. </p>

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Is it addictive?

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<p>No, you can never be physically addictive. Some people believe you can get "mentally" addicted, but again that's a cop out to me. I've quit for months at a time just because I wanted to, no one forced me. If people know they are too weak willed to control their own lives, then smoking is not for them, just like drinking, smoking cigs, or drinking coffee should not be for a person with an addictive personality.</p>

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There's the money issue.

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<p>YES. It's so annoying too. With legalization there would be far less crime, prices would drop, and the government could profit, that's why we move towards legalization with each passing day. Some even believe that the decline of anti drug commercials and increase of anti cigarette commercials suggest the tobacco industry is preparing for an all out upheaval to start selling marijuana. I could see it happening, but the evidence isn't convincing enough for me.</p>

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And since pot is supposedly (can't source, but I've heard it) three times as bad as cigarettes for your lungs, if tobacco is banned under 18, shouldn't pot?

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<p>Four times actually. Let me explain this, first off it talks of marijuana cigarettes (blunt/joint). Cigarettes are filtered, when someone rolls weed, it is not. You inhale more carcinogens but:</p>

<p>A. They aren't chemically treated thousands of times over (generally).
B. A marijuana smoker doesn't smoke the same amount as the common smoker, sure one blunt may equal four cigarettes, but how many pack and a half a day smokers do you know compared to people who smoke ten blunts a day? Exactly.</p>

<p>Third, you can eliminate this by using a vaporizer (what many medical patients use). What this does is heat up the herb to point where theTHC can be released without burning it, causing nearly zero carcinogens. similarly, using water bongs, filtering it through water, etc, all help, but a vape is your best device if you are worried about carcinogens.</p>

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HisGraceFillsMe-
WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC?????? How can you get in trouble for NOT reporting something????????
and it' s not YOUR duty to do that anyways. let people live their own lives and make their own decsions. I think that we are all old enough to do that by now....... we ae you so afraid pot???? Believe me you'll deal within middle school, high school, college, oh adn GUESS WHAT???? adults smoke pot too!!!!!!!!!!! you cna't spend the rest of your life telling on people because you just won't get very far in your life if you do. believe me i learned this the hard way........ myabe someone should start the website tattletalesconfidential.com...............

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<p>Ask my school, not me. I don't have any say in my school's rules, last time I checked.</p>

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If I'm not mistaken, she's also claimed that she has snitched on people simply for cheating.

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<p>You're mistaken. In the thread you're referring to, I said I would tell on someone that was cheating.</p>

<p>And actually, day before yesterday I was grading some papers for my Teacher's Assistant class and found that two kids had the exact same paper. And you're right I told the teacher. Sorry I have morals and want people to do their own work.</p>

<p>Although that's really weird, I don't want this ruining the thread, but damn I feel sorry for those kids. Now other students are monitoring them...</p>

<p>Regardless, back to pot.</p>

<p>Fun fact: Marijuana is practically harmless to a person's body if he or she smokes it in moderation, and it's not physically addicting like it is for nicotine and cocaine.</p>

<p>No, I do not smoke weed, but I am friends with people who are.</p>

<p>I agree that there is a considerable association with stupidity and marijuana, but stupidity is not the result from smoking it. The 'smarter kids' are usually law-abiding folks who wouldn't want to smoke anything anyways, so they wouldn't even bother trying an illegal substance.</p>

<p>Not to say that I completely agree with this, but many law enforcement officials consider marijuana to be a kind of "bridge" drug to more dangerous ones.</p>

<p>I don't care what other people do with their own lives at school unless I know that person is worth trying to save (which is the majority, but never mind that), but I'll tell someone if something they're doing is, in my opinion, stupid. There are kids who sit at the same lunch table as I do whom I don't know who every day talk about how high they're going to get and plan on having a "pot bash" soon. Of course, I don't care, but my and my friends find it kind of annoying. Of course, this entire paragraph was completely unrelated to the topic, but it may clear something up as to my opinion.</p>

<p>I currently feel no responsibility towards stopping pot usage. However, if I was in some higher government position, I would have the responsibility, and if it was in my jurisdiction, I would probably support keeping it banned.</p>

<p>Here's a plan: How about we legalize it, watch prices drop, and then charge tons of taxes on it to raise it to its original price or higher? If the government felt like banning it, they could just put a 5000% excise tax on it!</p>

<p>If there is a huge tax then pot would just go back to being bought illegally..</p>

<p>No, people would grow it...there is no profit in legalizing marijuana, which is why it remains illegal (imo).</p>

<p>As for telling on cheaters...why bother? Ultimately they will pay for not learning (when they fail the test) or when they cheat on a test (they'll fail the final). You should get a life.</p>

<p>Just worry about yourself. I hope you realize that if you really want to succeed in life that screwing others isn't the right path to take.</p>

<p>As for the health concerns etc, pot really isnt that bad for you. Sure it promotes laziness, but maybe that's healthy? People are too stressed these days. Dying of a heart attack at age 47 is not a real life. Americans need to relax. If you go to Europe, especially spain (and other countries, im sure) you will find most people work to live. In America, they live to work. Who has happier families? Who has a lower divorce rate? Who dies happier?</p>

<p>While marijuana obviously inst the be all, end all answer, it also isnt an evil scourge.</p>

<p>"everything in moderation"</p>

<p>proletariat: I know you said not to reply if it was wrong, but I have to make this clear. Despite repeated studies, there has never been a definitive link shown between marijuana and any kind of lung disease. Lung cancer rates do not increase, and neither do COPD or emphysema rates. It's theorized that this is because marijuana is a bronchodilator and expectorant, which clears any tar and mucous out of the lungs and prevents carcinogenesis.</p>

<p>The gateway drug argument has never been proven or even weakly linked with marijuana.</p>

<p>Look, if the government legalized it, then taxed it hard, all the problems would disappear. The criminal element would leave (assuming prices weren't so high as to prompt a large black market response), ODs based on impurities and so forth would disappear, and all of that. Weed is not addictive, causes little death, and has no real long term health effects. It is ludicrous that it should be banned when things like alcohol, tobacco and caffeine (which is both very addictive and does have some long term health effects) are not. There's no good reason for it, it's purely cultural, and not at all reasonable.</p>

<p>"No, people would grow it...there is no profit in legalizing marijuana, which is why it remains illegal"</p>

<p>No way, if the Government made Pot legal, they would rake in the profits.
Also the gov would regulate the sale of it. They would put up near impossible barriers to entry on growing weed. It would turn into a government run monopoly of sorts.</p>

<p>I still disagree....people would grow it themselves.</p>

<p>Either way, the government COULD make money off of it, but unlike alcohol and tobacco, you can just throw it in a pot and watch it grow.</p>

<p>Ultimately, it really isn't a dangerous substance, and it shouldn't be illegal. </p>

<p>Water is more toxic than pot.</p>

<p>---The amount of water you need to drink to survive vs that which can kill you is like 1:15 (or 1:10, i forget). The amount of weed you need to smoke to get high vs the amount that can kill you is like 1:1000. Alcohol is like 1:7.</p>

<p>You must understand that...the effect's of weed are gradual. Taking it once does not dictate that you are automatically stupid. You will become stupid over time and less motivated everyday.</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure that the correlation between pot and stupidity isn't quite causal; after all, stupid people are more likely to take it in the first place.</p>

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Either way, the government COULD make money off of it, but unlike alcohol and tobacco, you can just throw it in a pot and watch it grow.

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<p>You can do that with tobacco; that's kind of what they did in the South in the early colonial period (except without the pot). Tobacco requires little technology and development to grow.</p>